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Here's cause for some optimism. GW has the 3rd best ranked recruiting class in the A10 and 69th best in the Nation
Brayon Freeman is the top rated recruit in GW history (per 24/7 sports, and a note of caution there, check out 2-10, FWIW) and Daniel Nixon is 11th. Granted, 12-15: JR Pinnock, Damian Hollis Carl Elliott and Mo Rice so some good company there.
The 5 lowest recruits ever: Miguel Cartagena, Jordan Roland, Syler White, and the 2 Collins, Smith and Goss.
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and 69th best in the Nation
Nice!
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Well, in addition to the digs about Jordan Roland and Collin Smith, both of whom have proven stats, impact and NCAA tourney experience that we would greatly salivate over in recent years...
With all these big conference transfers that we hear about regularly, even beyond Ira Lee, and top-ranked recruiting class, shouldn't we now do way better than 13th or 14th?
Wouldn't these players now lift us up to the top tier of the A-10?
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69th (jokes welcome) is the best GW class I believe in history.
A few other notes, VCU comes in #2 at 67 and Dayton has the best class, an impressive 21st.
Memphis is the #1 class in the nation, Gonzaga has the #1 player in the country, and the 3rd best class, and 3 of the 5 highest ranked in program history. Hurley's UCONN, 9th highest ranked, and Creighton #7. Kentucky, years removed from dominating these lists, is 10th.
As to why is GW being picked 11th-13th? Lost Battle and Moyer, the Ira Lee injury, and very few returning minutes, new moving parts. Fortunately, there's Fordham in 14th.
The best hope for a team much better than expected I'd say is huge impact from Freeman asking a lot, and that the non injured transfers all land big and instantly. Otherwise, it figures to be a bottom 4 year. But maybe Freeman and Nixon help initiate a surprise season.
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JF, The Dude would like everyone to believe that JC and staff are doing a great job with recruiting, based on this year's incoming players, while simultaneously creating a narrative suggesting that nothing positive should be expected of this team, despite the outstanding new players. My guess is that his head is hurting pretty badly trying to pull off this delicate balancing act.
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Mayhem, look at all the threads started the last couple months by our all-star poster. They get 4 or 5 responses, 2 or 3 being from the same all-star who started the original thread. Lesson here - ignore and he will soon go away!
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Mayhem, look at all the threads started the last couple months by our all-star poster. They get 4 or 5 responses, 2 or 3 being from the same all-star who started the original thread. Lesson here - ignore and he will soon go away!
Our poster makes himself such an easy target that it takes every ounce to restrain from calling him out. But I get it ... let him have a conversation with himself about his own nonsense.
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Bottom 5 rated GW recruits in GW history all came in the same few years
Brayon Freeman, the highest rated recruit GW history, had offers from Florida, Oklahoma St, Ole Miss, among others.
Daniel Nixon, among the highest recruits, had offers from: G'town, Iowa, Ole Miss, Wake Forest, Temple etc
Going to need more guys like that.
Why we were bringing in guys who didn't have any D1 offers at all, 5-7 years ago remains a mystery. Miguel? Goss?? Justin Williams?
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Dude smh
We also had Cavanaugh, Watanabe. Garino, McDonald and Larsen eating up all the minutes. We recruited some top talent like Cimino that did not work out. Also had Savage and Jorgensen which were lower rated but ended up playing tons of minutes in Power 5
Yeah there were some back end recruits too but don’t ignore the huge wins . Your agenda makes me not want even open up some threads when I see your name because it has the same tired agenda
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With Strickland/Sutton, really good, without, really bad. Pretty simple.
the lowest 5 ranked recruits in GW history were all from the same few consecutive recruiting classes. Link above It wasn't back end recruits, it was entire classes. the 5 man recruiting class that was supposed to turn around years of missed recruits and replace the graduated Core 4, but that bombed too. Your agenda is to over-state things so as to whine about a firing. that had nothing to do with on court performance regardless.
The highest rated recruit, Brayon Freeman. Facts are stubborn things.
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A rating on a random website isn't a fact. Rating are subjective. Facts are objective. Of course you don't know the difference.
Even if you did know the difference, you can't even read your own source material. This website doesn't include all GW players in the history of ever. You know what it includes, players this website ranked. You know what it excludes. Low level recruits that never got ranked at all. Players like Lincoln Ball and Tyler Bresford, who were much less heralded than the players you mentioned. .
Also, you claim this recruiting class at #69 was the best in GW, where the same source you use has the 2014 recruiting class as #53 in the country. All you had to do was click over a few times to see that.
So, you're either trolling with this post, or don't know how to read.
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A rating on a random website isn't a fact. Rating are subjective. Facts are objective. Of course you don't know the difference.
Even if you did know the difference, you can't even read your own source material. This website doesn't include all GW players in the history of ever. You know what it includes, players this website ranked. You know what it excludes. Low level recruits that never got ranked at all. Players like Lincoln Ball and Tyler Bresford, who were much less heralded than the players you mentioned. .
Also, you claim this recruiting class at #69 was the best in GW, where the same source you use has the 2014 recruiting class as #53 in the country. All you had to do was click over a few times to see that.
So, you're either trolling with this post, or don't know how to read.
Porter why bother? The answer to your last statement is probably both so your logical and accurate post will not be understood at all by this poster.
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We beat out a lot good schools for Freeman and Nixon, that's no guarantee they will succeed but I sure like their odds.
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Thread Starter- The Dude
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Recall when the board had 3-4 names that existed only to say how great all the recruits were? "Moco Observer" e.g.
Those were the days! I guess those guys all just vanished. Makes you wonder, maybe all the names were one guy with an agenda. They sure loved every recruit for one Coach. Nah, must just be a coincidence. They all just decided to stop posting at the exact same time I guess.
Moco Observers, where art though!? No one has any thoughts on Freeman? Nixon? What about the self described insider?!
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A rating on a random website isn't a fact. Rating are subjective. Facts are objective. Of course you don't know the difference.
Even if you did know the difference, you can't even read your own source material. This website doesn't include all GW players in the history of ever. You know what it includes, players this website ranked. You know what it excludes. Low level recruits that never got ranked at all. Players like Lincoln Ball and Tyler Bresford, who were much less heralded than the players you mentioned. .
Also, you claim this recruiting class at #69 was the best in GW, where the same source you use has the 2014 recruiting class as #53 in the country. All you had to do was click over a few times to see that.
So, you're either trolling with this post, or don't know how to read.
+1 Porter
What’s especially bad about this website is that both Ricky Lucas and JR Pinnock we’re actually considered top 60 or top 75 recruits (where these bad rankings come from, I have no idea). Long timers probably remember all the dumb why do we need Pinnock when we already have Lucas coming in at the 2 convos.
Plus Shawnta Rogers was a top 25 recruit in the nation, clearly and by far our highest ranked recruit ever.
And finally, to answer Porter, it’s obvious trolling - find bad website, Cherry pick data, troll, and then make your real points in the responses.
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Totally agreed, Bart Torvik,24/7, and KenPom are all useless if they disagree with your bias. Ergo citing them is clear trolling.
This site was better served when it had made up, fake personas giving first hand assurances of GW recruits, before the all vanished over night. Sites like 24/7 and Bart Torvik are just a conspiracy to under-value GW
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