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6/15/2022 2:54 pm  #41


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

I’m outraged-That an “institution of higher learning” can’t differentiate between a victimizer and a victim is
pathetic.Having said that if they come up with something with some panache or catches the zeitgeist I’ll 
follow along.On another note-although this appears to be a piece of “woke” nonsense and “cancel culture”
I can’t let GW Risings post go unanswered.My friend -what is more egregious,changing the moniker of a 
University or not televising the Jan 6th committee?With no commercials!Talk about canceling.

 

6/15/2022 3:04 pm  #42


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

Binghamton were also called the Colonials at one point and they were named after the architecture not the people. Ended up with the goofy name Bearcats. I think Robert Morris are the last Colonials left?



 

 

6/15/2022 3:05 pm  #43


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

I just don't care. I don't find the name Colonials offensive in any way. But also, I don't feel attached to the school because of the Colonials nickname. I feel attached to the school because it is where I went to school. I'll still feel attached if they change the actual name. 

If people are offended, changing it and leaving people less offended is better. There's a lot in life to be upset/worried/angry about. I just choose not to be any of those things about GW's name. I'm looking forward to buying a new hat and some new shirts in 2023.

 

6/15/2022 3:15 pm  #44


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

danjsport wrote:

I just don't care. I don't find the name Colonials offensive in any way. But also, I don't feel attached to the school because of the Colonials nickname. I feel attached to the school because it is where I went to school. I'll still feel attached if they change the actual name. 

If people are offended, changing it and leaving people less offended is better. There's a lot in life to be upset/worried/angry about. I just choose not to be any of those things about GW's name. I'm looking forward to buying a new hat and some new shirts in 2023.

Spot on, word perfect. 

 

6/15/2022 3:15 pm  #45


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

Gwmayhem wrote:

Mike K wrote:

ESPN AP Article

According to an online statement from the university, a that committee determined that supporters of "Colonials" view it as referring to "those who lived in the American colonies, especially those who fought for independence and democracy," while opponents see the term as referring to "colonizers who stole land and resources from indigenous groups, killed or exiled Native peoples and introduced slavery into the colonies."

NO, NO, NO!  Definitions of words are not matters of opinion.  You can't take the word "refrigerator" and state that one group views the word as an appliance designed to store and keep food cold while others define it as a fluid put in a car to enable power steering.  Colonizer and Colonial are different words with different meanings, not subject to interpretation.

Totally agree with you Gwmayhem

 

6/15/2022 3:56 pm  #46


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

"I attended GW at a time when I was unable to set foot in my country of birth because the USA had installed a brutal dictatorship (ie Yanqui imperialism). Since then, I have lived in countries where the USA funded civil wars to "protect its interests", wars that killed people and continue to create hardships and limit economic development due to the damage they brought to the countries.
I know the difference between a "Colonial" and a "colonist". I know the difference between a tricornered hat and pith helmet. I know the difference between an IPA and the CIA. Every week, I meet with a group of people who had live electric wires strapped to their genitalia with the full knowledge, approval and funding of the government of the United States. None of them are confused by the difference, either.
Everyone arrives on their college campus with the fantasy of changing the mascot or renaming the quad or tossing out the evil Dean. "Colonials" may not be a totally rad nickname, but it is not an endorsement of imperalism, a symbol of opression or an offense to downtrodden masses. Had the arguement been "it is antiquated and lame" I might have given it some thought. 
Until you have looked down the barrel of a rifle held by a soldier who feels that you (his/her compatriot) is an enemy and that a far-away government in another country that provided the rifle is a friend, then you cannot claim to have any knowledge of what "invokes" imperialsm or not."

GW alum abroad...Well said! We've gone off the rails and the only thing awaiting us is how bad the crash will be. Babies without food, people who can't afford to go to work due to the price of gasoline. Yeah, yeah. But we must worry about the name of a mascot of a school. And then spending a lot of money to change it.

Do I really care? No. What bothers me though is allowing the masses (which are probably at best a third of the whole) to demand and whine and change things because of what THEY think. Right or wrong 'we' cower and shake in fear because we're scared of the loud third. When are the grown-ups going to act like grown-ups.

Chris
 

 

6/15/2022 4:29 pm  #47


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

chrisw wrote:

"I attended GW at a time when I was unable to set foot in my country of birth because the USA had installed a brutal dictatorship (ie Yanqui imperialism). Since then, I have lived in countries where the USA funded civil wars to "protect its interests", wars that killed people and continue to create hardships and limit economic development due to the damage they brought to the countries.
I know the difference between a "Colonial" and a "colonist". I know the difference between a tricornered hat and pith helmet. I know the difference between an IPA and the CIA. Every week, I meet with a group of people who had live electric wires strapped to their genitalia with the full knowledge, approval and funding of the government of the United States. None of them are confused by the difference, either.
Everyone arrives on their college campus with the fantasy of changing the mascot or renaming the quad or tossing out the evil Dean. "Colonials" may not be a totally rad nickname, but it is not an endorsement of imperalism, a symbol of opression or an offense to downtrodden masses. Had the arguement been "it is antiquated and lame" I might have given it some thought. 
Until you have looked down the barrel of a rifle held by a soldier who feels that you (his/her compatriot) is an enemy and that a far-away government in another country that provided the rifle is a friend, then you cannot claim to have any knowledge of what "invokes" imperialsm or not."

GW alum abroad...Well said! We've gone off the rails and the only thing awaiting us is how bad the crash will be. Babies without food, people who can't afford to go to work due to the price of gasoline. Yeah, yeah. But we must worry about the name of a mascot of a school. And then spending a lot of money to change it.

Do I really care? No. What bothers me though is allowing the masses (which are probably at best a third of the whole) to demand and whine and change things because of what THEY think. Right or wrong 'we' cower and shake in fear because we're scared of the loud third. When are the grown-ups going to act like grown-ups.

Chris
 

Amen.

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6/15/2022 4:31 pm  #48


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

GW69 wrote:

I’m outraged-That an “institution of higher learning” can’t differentiate between a victimizer and a victim is
pathetic.Having said that if they come up with something with some panache or catches the zeitgeist I’ll 
follow along.On another note-although this appears to be a piece of “woke” nonsense and “cancel culture”
I can’t let GW Risings post go unanswered.My friend -what is more egregious,changing the moniker of a 
University or not televising the Jan 6th committee?With no commercials!Talk about canceling.

I'll tell you what. You can televise the whole January 6th hearings in primetime on every network if you agree that in the upper right hand corner of the screen we have the current average price per gallon of gas and the current annualized inflation rate. Fair?

Last edited by GWRising (6/15/2022 4:31 pm)

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6/15/2022 4:33 pm  #49


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

Gwmayhem wrote:

Mike K wrote:

ESPN AP Article

According to an online statement from the university, a that committee determined that supporters of "Colonials" view it as referring to "those who lived in the American colonies, especially those who fought for independence and democracy," while opponents see the term as referring to "colonizers who stole land and resources from indigenous groups, killed or exiled Native peoples and introduced slavery into the colonies."

NO, NO, NO!  Definitions of words are not matters of opinion.  You can't take the word "refrigerator" and state that one group views the word as an appliance designed to store and keep food cold while others define it as a fluid put in a car to enable power steering.  Colonizer and Colonial are different words with different meanings, not subject to interpretation.

 
This should be framed and sent to the powers that be at GW.

     Thread Starter
 

6/15/2022 5:51 pm  #50


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

Question for BGF.  For those of us who have Colonials in their screen name, are we supposed to change it?

 

6/15/2022 6:00 pm  #51


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

We've survived inflation many times.  How many times have we survived insurrection?

 

6/15/2022 6:03 pm  #52


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

LA Colonial wrote:

Question for BGF.  For those of us who have Colonials in their screen name, are we supposed to change it?

Hahaha.  No. 

Nor will I be changing the name of my 25-year old fantasy football league, the GWUCFL, or the GWU Colonial Football League. 

We have 4 divisions of 4 teams:  Omo, Kwame, Vaughn, and Nimbo.

 

6/15/2022 6:15 pm  #53


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

Geno wrote:

A great victory for everyone who was insulted to the very fiber of their being by "Colonials".

Let's take the Stanford/Dartmouth/ Syracuse route and go with a color.

I vote Buff or Buffs because it is unique. And you don't have to change anything.

The GW Mascot for the buffs better be a naked guy or gal

 

6/15/2022 6:27 pm  #54


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

Rising -that’s totally fair! Inflation and gas prices vs.overthrowing the government.You are kidding right?
I sure hope so.If not we are in big trouble.

 

6/15/2022 6:46 pm  #55


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

GW69 wrote:

Rising -that’s totally fair! Inflation and gas prices vs.overthrowing the government.You are kidding right?
I sure hope so.If not we are in big trouble.

I agree disgusting statement.. I'll pay higher prices (like the rest of the world , not just Biden's world) vs overthrowing a government, racism, hate etc etc..   

 

6/15/2022 7:10 pm  #56


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

I'd rather skip out on the hate/racism AND the high prices but that's just me lol

 

6/15/2022 7:11 pm  #57


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

For a supposed higher learning institution we really failed to teach people who the Colonials were huh

 

6/15/2022 7:15 pm  #58


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

Inflation  was going to happen no matter who was president. At least we dont have that grifter

 

6/15/2022 8:39 pm  #59


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

GW0509 wrote:

Binghamton were also called the Colonials at one point and they were named after the architecture not the people. Ended up with the goofy name Bearcats. I think Robert Morris are the last Colonials left?



 

Looks like Robert Morris may not be the Colonials for long either: https://www.wtae.com/article/robert-morris-university-considering-colonials-name/40303045?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot#

 

6/15/2022 8:57 pm  #60


Re: Colonials Name Dead in 2023-24

The vast majority of us have had our own ancestors come to the country and had their name changed. And for no reason other than some asshole couldn’t pronounce what our ancestors said. Now we get upset when the school we went to changes it’s name. Priorities people.

Also, I’m pretty pissed off about Jan 6 and high inflation and the 90 dollars it took me to fill my gas tank yesterday. Why we have to compartmentalize and only be mad at certain things is crazy. There are plenty of news stories (and hearings) about the economy. If one believes those should be prioritized over an attempted coup, so be it. There are plenty of places to get that news.

 

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