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Six of the sixteen teams in the Crown field do not even have winning records:
Arizona St 13-19
Butler 14-19
Depaul 14-19
Colorado 14-20
USC 16-17
Utah 16-16
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TJT85 wrote:
Six of the sixteen teams in the Crown field do not even have winning records:
Arizona St 13-19
Butler 14-19
Depaul 14-19
Colorado 14-20
USC 16-17
Utah 16-16
I don’t really care how crappy some of the teams in the field are. The fact is that we get the opportunity to play against a quality team in Boise State (44 NET, 50 KenPom). As someone else on here noted, the only higher ranked team we played all year was VCU.
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TJT85 wrote:
Six of the sixteen teams in the Crown field do not even have winning records:
Arizona St 13-19
Butler 14-19
Depaul 14-19
Colorado 14-20
USC 16-17
Utah 16-16
Even though they have stinky records, they would be all Quad 2 games in the regular season, except for DePaul.
ASU - NET 74
Butler - NET 83
DePaul - NET 119
Colorado - NET 86
USC - NET 70
Utah - NET 73
FWIW, GW finished with a NET of 124.
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Let's go!! Excited to figure this out as we go. But for now, it may not be dancing at the club with VCU, but it's still shaking one's tail feather at a sock hop.
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So Boise is #1 seed and GW #16 seed?
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As I wondered, Boise passed on the NIT. Makes sense as SI explains
The Crown covers all travel expenses for the 16 participants. The tournament also features an unspecified NIL prize fund for teams that reach the semifinals and finals.
Boise State opted for the Crown over the NIT, which features just three power-conference teams in its 32-team bracket. The Crown has five Big 12 teams, four Big East teams, two Big Ten representatives and future Pac-12 rivals Oregon State and Washington State.
Obviously a no brainer for us.
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Because the portal will be open prior to the start of this tournament, there is an actual rule for The Crown that states that all teams must have at least 7 players in order to be eligible. I haven't come across a rule like this since my son was regularly participating in rec basketball.
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Anyone hearing anything about the team’s prep? Everyone planning to play?
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I have been and will remain a proponant of a stronger schedule. The flip side, of course, is that our weak schedule took a team with too many holes to be considered good to 21 wins, a ranking in the top quarter of division 1 and a post season tournament consisting primarily of power conference teams, playing on national television with the opportunity to not only win some money, but the theoretical possibility of playing Ge""getown for the first time in roughly 45 years. I suspect that even if went 8-4 against a stronger schedule (I am not counting our d2 win), we would be home watching "The Crown" with our friends from Richmond and Lasalle rather that playing in Vegas.
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Thoughtful above by LSF.
It may have worked (or lucked) out with this tournament, though schedule may well have also cost us a spot in the NIT as believe the Bonnies seemed to have the same record.
If we somehow play and beat the Evil Empire in the semis, then it will be one of the greatest GW basketball moments in decades.
But given the schedule, the matchup which seems to place us against the best team in this tournament by NCAA selection committee standards anyway, and our inconsistencies in facing decent (league) opponent...
does anyone have the confidence that we will advance.
Doesn't inspire one for a trip in Vegas, though will happily accept a GW run through this tournament.
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Looks like Boise State only has one player lost to the portal so far:
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[*]SO SG Chris Lockett Jr=inherit || HT/WT: 6’4”/205 =inherit|| HS rank: =inherit★★★ from New Orleans, LA =inherit|| Bio: Boise State (2024-2025) =inherit|| ‘25 stats: Started 5/24 games, 3.1 points, 1.4 rebounds, 0.9 assists, 33.3% FG, 27.5% 3PT, 72.7% FT
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Looks like another one of their guys just entered the portal a few minutes ago. Center Dylan Anderson, who has played 9 minutes since February 1
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Make no mistake about what The Crown is: a made for television event. It will not drag out over three weeks like the NCAA tournament or the NIT. It will go head-to-head with the NIT semis and finals, hoping that their power conference teams even in an early round will outdraw presumed mid-majors vying for the NIT title. Take away these 3 NIT games and The Crown owns men's college basketball for a full week, even after considering that it's a tournament featuring non-Top 50 schools. Its semifinals lead into the men's NCAA Final 4. I would not foresee this event moving up on the calendar as it is strategically placed precisely where it is.
Speaking of Boise State, they have a great player in Tyson Degenhart, a 6' 8" forward who promises to be a nightmare matchup for GW. He is 29 points away from 2,000 for his career. Tyson is also the MWC's second player to place on the conference's first team for three consecutive years. The other is a player you may remember who was watching his alma mater advance to the Sweet 16 last Saturday...Jimmer Fredette.
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A tougher OOC schedule would not have done nothing but add more losses. The fact is that not one player on this team was consistent for the entire season--including Castro early on. Do you think a recruit would rather be looking to come to a 21-win team regardless of schedule or one around .500? It's truly a miracle that this team won as many games as it did--schedule or no schedule--given the players' inconsistencies. If the team had played a tougher OOC schedule and lost a lot more games, we would be clamoring for Caputo's head. Now we just have to find a bunch of frontline players, particularly if Castro leaves--a job that GW has struggled to be successful at with few exceptions over my 60 years following the team. PS: I watched Kent State play Loyola yesterday and the former had a much deeper frontline than us. Given that Kent State is not what you call a basketball powerhouse, how do they bring in players like that and we can't?
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PS: I watched Kent State play Loyola yesterday and the former had a much deeper frontline than us. Given that Kent State is not what you call a basketball powerhouse, how do they bring in players like that and we can't?
Kent St? They are in the bottom 10 for height in the country. They only start onr guy over 6’5” (and he’s 6’8”) and they bring one 6’9” guy off the bench.
Not sure how that would be considered a deeper frontline than Castro (better than anyone on their team), Hansen, and Buchanan?
They also let Rubin and Deloach (who split 40 minutes) combine for 26 points, 24 rebounds, and 6 blocks.
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Boise State Broncos
Date: Monday March 31st, 2025
Time: 5:30 PM ET
Venue: MGM Grand Garden Arena (Las Vegas, NV)
TV: FS1
Ranks: 48th (KenPom), 53rd (Bart Torvik), 54th (Haslametrics), 52nd (EvanMiya)
2024-25 Record: 24-10, 14-6 (T-4th in Mountain West)
Head-to-Head: First time facing the Broncos! GW is a career 4-2 against teams that are currently members of the Mountain West (at least until some leave for the new generation Pac-12). The Revs are 0-1 against Air Force, 1-0 against Nevada, 1-1 against New Mexico (including of course the NCAA tournament win), 1-0 against San Diego State (the NIT semifinal win), and 1-0 against Utah State.
Offensive Efficiency: 51st (KenPom), 54th (Bart Torvik), 44th (Haslametrics), 55th (EvanMiya)
Defensive Efficiency: 61st (KenPom), 57th (Bart Torvik), 68th (Haslametrics), 59th (EvanMiya)
Pace: 290th (KenPom), 284th (Bart Torvik), 326th (Haslametrics), 288th (EvanMiya)
Offensive Shot Quality Rank: 35th
Defensive Shot Quality Rank: 26th
Rim & 3 Rate: 88% (46th)
Strengths (2024-25 Season):
Rebound Margin: +7.7 RPG (10th)
Free Throws Made Per Game: 16.8 FTM (20th)
Free Throw Percentage: 77.7% (21st)
Scoring Defense: 66.1 PPG (33rd)
Scoring Margin: +8.8 PPG (41st)
Winning Percentage: 70.6% (49th)
Free Throw Attempts Per Game: 21.6 FTA (56th)
Defensive Rebounds Per Game: 25.7 DRPG (88th)
Bench Points Per Game: 23.2 PPG (92nd)
Weaknesses (2024-25 Season):
Blocks Per Game: 2.6 BPG (278th)
Turnovers Forced Per Game: 10.7 TO/G (288th)
Fastbreak Points: 7.4 PPG (293rd)
Steals Per Game: 5.4 SPG (316th)
Three Point Percentage: 31% (317th)
Projected Starting Lineup:
#11 G Alvaro Cardenas (Senior; Granada, Spain) - 11.7 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 7 apg, 1.4 spg; 42% FG, 32% 3-PT, 76% FT per 34.8 mpg/34 GP
#13 F Andrew Meadow (Sophomore; Santa Clarita, CA) - 12.5 ppg, 4.3 rpg; 46% FG, 34% 3-PT, 84% FT per 29.5 mpg/34 GP
#6 F Pearson Carmichael (Freshman; Bend, OR) - 6.2 ppg, 2.6 rpg; 42% FG, 31% 3-PT, 75% FT per 15.6 mpg/19 GP
#1 F O'Mar Stanley (Senior; Overland Park, KS) - 7.1 ppg, 4.7 rpg; 46% FG, 18% 3-PT, 67% FT per 17.5 mpg/34 GP
#2 F Tyson Degenhart (Senior; Spokane, WA) - 17.9 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 1.4 apg; 52% FG, 32% 3-PT, 80% FT per 33.4 mpg/34 GP
Key Bench Players:
#22 F Javan Buchanan (Junior; Lafayette, IN) - 9.1 ppg, 3.7 rpg; 52% FG, 33% 3-PT, 81% FT per 20.8 mpg/34 GP
#5 G RJ Keene II (RS Junior; The Woodlands, TX) - 1.8 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 1.5 apg; 35% FG, 22% 3-PT, 68% FT per 18.3 mpg/33 GP
#0 G Julian Bowie (Freshman; Pocatello, ID) - 3.7 ppg, 1.5 rpg; 36% FG, 33% 3-PT, 92% FT per 13 mpg/32 GP
#10 F Emmanuel Ugbo (Sophomore; Barendrecht, Netherlands) - 3.2 ppg, 2.3 rpg; 51% FG, 26% 3-PT, 79% FT per 9.9 mpg/33 GP
Key Losses:
Chibuzo Agbo (Transferred to USC; San Diego, CA) - 13.7 ppg, 5.1 rpg; 45% FG, 41% 3-PT, 72% FT per 31.2 mpg/33 GP
Max Rice (Graduated; Boise, ID) - 12.2 ppg, 3.7 rpg, 1.8 apg; 37% FG, 35% 3-PT, 84% FT per 31.9 mpg/33 GP
Roddie Anderson III (Transferred to Xavier; Huntington Beach, CA) - 6.5 ppg, 3 rpg, 2.4 apg, 1.2 spg; 36% FG, 27% 3-PT, 55% FT per 26.3 mpg/33 GP
Cam Martin (Graduated; Yukon, OK) - 5.3 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 2.4 apg; 48% FG, 19% 3-PT, 65% FT per 17.6 mpg/32 GP
Preview:
The Mountain West has ranked above the Atlantic 10 the past four seasons as a conference, per KenPom. It's no secret that the league has succeeded when it comes to scheduling and winning the games needed OOC to make the conference a multi-bid league, although that success has not exactly carried over into March. You have San Diego State carrying the torch for the league with the school committing heavily to athletics, but Utah State has been a consistent force the last few years as well. They are very much the VCU of the west, losing their coach year after year and not missing a beat. Colorado State, New Mexico, and Nevada have made some noise themselves. We shall see whether CSU can maintain the momentum now that Medved has chosen to return home to Minnesota. UNM won a game in the tournament this year and definitely commits to basketball, but with Pitino Jr off to X they will similarly be in rebuild mode. UNR has been solid under Steve Alford, but don't have the same buzz that they did under Musselman. In a given year, UNLV may help provide some solid Q2 opportunities for these schools, although the program isn't at the level it once was or considered a top level job in the league anymore. The recent Josh Pastner hire seems really odd, but at the very least one that will be fascinating to watch. Fresno theoretically could be better some seasons, but that athletic department is a mess right now and a few players were kicked off the team for betting on their own squad. It's not surprising that Wyoming is a hard place to recruit to, but the Cowboys definitely have a strong home court advantage. While Air Force and San Jose State generally find themselves towards the bottom of the conference, the league overall benefits from not being bloated - something that cannot be said for the A10.
Often lost in the shuffle among the better teams in the league is Boise State. Leon Rice isn't a coach that is often talked about for power conference gigs (likely because Boise hasn't won a game in the tournament) but he definitely seems like he'd do well at any place. Prior to his arrival 15 years ago, BSU had made just five NCAA tournaments in their history. They weren't an awful program by any means, but a middling one for much of their history. While they probably still consider themselves a football-first school, you might as well pencil in a 20 win season for them with Rice on the sidelines. He's hit that mark in 12 of 15 seasons, and one of the seasons he didn't was the season affected by COVID where he came up a game short. This season, the Broncos just missed making it four straight years in the big dance.
Under Rice, you can pretty much forget about trying to get second chance opportunities. The Broncos have been top 60 in defensive rebound percentage in all 15 seasons with the Wazzu alum along the sidelines, including six seasons where they were top 10 nationally in that category. They have been even better there than Mark Few's Gonzaga squads, and Rice had spent over a decade as an assistant under Few. This year and last year's teams in particular have been elite in that category and they do well in forcing teams to play in isolation. BSU has played at different tempos in Rice's tenure, however they have made an effort to slow things down since 2022, which was the start of their yearly contention for March Madness. These teams also played lockdown defense, ranking in the top 30 of KenPom's defensive efficiency rankings the previous three years behind a stable of switchable forwards. The Broncos slipped a bit there this season (ranking only 61st) which may have cost them the bid. It's either that or their substandard three point shooting (just 31% on the year) which is the worst they have shot from behind the arc in like 22 years. Losing Rice's son Max Rice to graduation and Chibuzo Agbo to USC definitely didn't help, as those two combined to drill 150 threes which accounted for nearly 59% of the team's makes. They were also the two best shooters on the team by percentage among players who averaged at least one three point make on the year.
Like this year's GW squad, Boise's star resides in the frontcourt. Tyson Degenhart was not a heralded recruit coming out of HS in Spokane but has continued to develop over the course of his collegiate career, notably increasing his scoring average in every season. It's a shame that there will be fewer such stories in college basketball in the future - there's something to be said for staying at one place and developing under a single system. Given his hometown, Gonzaga would have been a no-brainer landing spot but I'm sure Few wouldn't have poached his friend's top player. Degenhart also paces the team in rebounding at over six boards a game, with nearly a third of those coming on the offensive side of the ball. While he's at his best near the basket (71st nationally in field goal percentage and second best in the MW behind Nelly Junior Joseph of New Mexico) and drawing contact (32nd nationally in free throw attempts behind Donovan Dent of New Mexico), he can also stretch the floor and bury a three if left alone. Degenhart has scored in double figures in all but one game this season. Unfortunately he hasn't fouled out in over two years otherwise that might have been a way to get him out of the game.
Degenhart's frontcourt buddy O'Mar Stanley also returned this year after ranking third on the team in scoring a year ago. The Kansas native began his career at St. John's, where he spent two seasons largely coming off the bench before making the trip out west. I provided a couple of reasons for why this year's Boise team failed to make the dance while the previous three teams did above - defensive ability and shooting - but Stanley would be a third reason. He's suffered a final year slump with his numbers down across the board compared to the 2023-24 season (unsurprisingly, his minutes have been cut as well). Stanley has less range compared to Degenhart (he's never been a good three point shooter, and is a spotty FT shooter at best) and is not defending at the same level as his junior year (although still provides a bit of rim protection). He does continue to rebound at a decent clip on both sides of the ball though. Boise is 11-0 on the year when Stanley scores in double figures.
California native Andrew Meadow has enjoyed a second year breakout after largely coming off the bench in his freshman campaign. You'll notice above that I've listed him in one of the guard positions but with a forward label. The past 11 Boise teams have ranked in the top 100 in KenPom's "average height" metric, and this year's team is no different which has certainly helped the defense. Meadow, who stands at 6'7", has improved on his rookie figures in all categories - he leads the team in three point makes (at a decent 34% clip) and is 84% at the FT line. In general, he does a pretty decent job of getting to the line and drawing contact.
Rice has shown to not be against giving freshmen major minutes right away. Last year, Meadow got some decent run. Coming into this season, Oregon native Pearson Carmichael was actually expected to sit out the year, but his rapid development resulted in a burned redshirt by January and a starting spot by February - which included a 21 point performance in a big win over New Mexico. Carmichael does not log major minutes despite starting but he has good length and has shot the ball at all three levels fairly well for a first year. Given Rice's track record when it comes to internal development, I fully expect an even bigger year from him in 25-26 assuming he sticks around.
Intra-conference transfer Alvaro Cardenas arrives in the Gem State after spending the previous three years at San Jose State. Even though he's 6'1", he looks like a midget on the floor playing alongside 6'7" and 6'8" guys. Cardenas is as important a player as any on the team. The Spaniard mans the point and is masterful in doing so. He ranks seventh nationally in both total assists and assists per game, and 12th in assist/turnover ratio, handing out nearly three dimes for every turnover. All three marks led the Mountain West. With that kind of sure-handedness, it's not too surprising that he leads the team in minutes played. In addition to his passing, he's a good FT shooter and has quick hands at the point of attack defensively (the only guy on the squad who averages over a steal a game). In general, Boise is more of a "fundamentally sound" defensive team than one that is overly aggressive. Cardenas enters Monday's game on a bit of a cold streak, as he's shot under 40% from the field in eight straight games.
Four players see decent run from off the bench. The Broncos have a Buchanan of their own in Javan Buchanan, who is yet another hybrid forward in that 6'7"-6'8" range. Prior to coming up to the D1 level, he was a first-team all-American in the NAIA ranks (Indiana Wesleyan). Buchanan has not had trouble against high levels of competition this season. That's especially true inside the arc, as he's shooting 53% from the field and 81% from the line. He will also compete on the glass. Outside of a late February outburst against Nevada, Buchanan has really struggled since mid-February. That may be why he played a combined 11 minutes in the semis and finals in the conference tournament. Julian Bowie is another true freshman from in-state that's seen decent run. During his junior year of HS, Bowie was Idaho's player of the year. While he doesn't have quite the same finishing ability inside as some of his teammates, he has a bright future ahead. He's only attempted 12 FTs on the year, yet has made 11 of them - if he can get to the line more often next year, he can become a real threat. Bowie's eight points in the championship against Colorado State was his first points in five weeks. Emmanuel Ugbo is another versatile forward who opted to forgo a pro career in Europe to play in the US. In his limited minutes, he will be looking to use his frame to get downhill rather than shoot threes (51% from the field overall compared to just 26% from deep). He's received his most minutes of the season in the last two games. Ugbo rewarded Rice's decision by putting up 17 against New Mexico in the semifinals. Finally, RJ Keene II is a guy who GW was pursuing during the Jamion era. He rebounds very well for his position and has flashed playmaking chops. Keene seemed like a pretty good shooter in HS but that hasn't materialized in college (just 21%). His scoring average has remained the same despite his minutes doubling this year, which suggests he's more of a glue guy than a scorer when he's in the game.
This isn't the best matchup for GW, as Boise's objectives offensively don't seem to match GW's defensively. The Broncos have a bunch of mediocre shooters (not outright bad or great) but are very efficient attacking the hoop. The Revs have been pretty decent along the perimeter this year but have also been burned when it comes to penetration at times. I'm curious whether CC opts to play even a bit of zone in this game and force Boise to maybe shoot them out of it. Doubles are surely coming Degenhart's way. On the other side of the ball, things look a bit better. BSU doesn't force too many turnovers, which is good for a GW team that can be a bit careless with the ball. They are also not a top shot blocking team, although I still wonder whether their length will still cause a number of weak layup attempts to get blocked. If possible, beating Boise down the floor in transition before they can get set would really help, given GW's struggles in the halfcourt. If the game is called close (many fouls called), it's definitely advantage BSU at the FT line. Regardless of the result, hopefully GW can remain competitive to avoid going out on a disappointing note (like the second half of the Mason game). One factor to watch will be the rebounding battle. I fully expect BSU to win in that category (they are tenth nationally in rebound margin after all, rebounding their opposition by nearly eight boards), but they cannot be winning that battle by an overwhelming margin for GW to have a chance at an upset.
Projected Score: Boise State 74, GW 66. 25% chance to win (KenPom). Bart Torvik predicts a 24% GW victory. ESPN gives the Revs a 20% chance at a W.
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Boise St favored by 8.5.
One optimistic note is that we’ve done pretty well with low expectations.
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Starting this tournament on March 31 has a similar feel to the Dodgers and Cubs beginning the MLB season two weeks early in Japan. Or maybe it's more like the Duke's Mayo Bowl. Nevertheless, it's one (or more) GW games to watch so no complaints here.
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Gwmayhem wrote:
Starting this tournament on March 31 has a similar feel to the Dodgers and Cubs beginning the MLB season two weeks early in Japan. Or maybe it's more like the Duke's Mayo Bowl. Nevertheless, it's one (or more) GW games to watch so no complaints here.
Definitely feels more like a Duke's Mayo Bowl or Cheribundi Boca Raton Bowl.
Some chatter on Trilly Donovan's Discord that Sean Hansen may not be available for us tonight.
For Boise State: No Lockett or Anderson. Neither appear to be contributors.