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Hired as an AC at Duquesne. They’re playing at GW this year so we’ll see if the school gives him a little shout out before the game.
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Given the success Karl had as a Coach, 3 straight NCAA trips, the #6 team in the nation, and his reputation as a highly regarded recruiter before and after while an assistant, is it not surprising he has not received a second chance as a Head Coach?
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His greatest acomplishment at GW was cleaning up a moral and legal mess. Like using a sliderule and navigating by sextant, that is no longer a skill that is of any practical use nowadays since moral and legal messes are no longer of any concern to anyone in college sports so long as the teams keep bringing in the cha-ching.
I wish him the best, except when his team and (the band of yokels they have as fans) play GW.
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KH had spent the past three seasons at Georgia Tech but when Damon Stodamire was released, so too were his assistants.
To address Dude's question, in my mind, it's incredibly disappointing but the fact that he's been blackballed from becoming a head coach is not that surprising. In the minds of many, Omargate which is my way of saying recruiting players at fraudulent prep schools, may have been permitted (as long as players were cleared to play by the NCAA Clearinghouse which was the case with all GW players) but was deemed to be morally wrong. Coaches can't claim plausible deniability on this one because it was widely known which schools were not kosher. Hobbs felt that he needed a competitive advantage at a program like GW's and was able to attract talent (Omar, JR, Mo Rice) who he arguably would have been unable to land in a more legitimate recruiting battle. Depending on who you spoke to, it was considered anything from cheating to bending the rules too far to playing within the rules. Whatever it was, it was enough for school presidents and AD's to easily take a pass on him.
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Actually, I had also wondered why KH could not get even a lower level D-1 coaching positoin. Perhaps he has been blackballed, but it is interesting that some pretty good schools will hire a person with a tainted reputatoin as an assistant but not as head coach. I was ready to see him leave GW due to poor on court performances (as opposed to Omargate), but those first few years at GW, espeically the 27-3 season and #6 national ranking, will always endear him to me, just as winning the NIT championship will always endear ML to me. And for that matter, the sweet 16 team and Jarvis.
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People with far greater sins have been given second chances. I think people just don’t think he’s an all that good of coach, or someone, somewhere would have certainly taken a flyer. And his sideline histrionics didn’t add to his appeal.
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IIRC he was a finalist at La Salle before they hired Dunphy
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Let's not also forget that KH became a very petulant coach over his final four seasons at GW. He felt that the school did not have his back and when you consider that the school president publicly criticized his recruiting practices (after the fact of course), the academic standards suddenly got much tougher as a result, and the decision was made to being in Brian Ellerbe as his top assistant (and presumed head coach in waiting should KH falter) against his will, it's hard to suggest that KH was wrong about all of this. Nevertheless, this can easily come across as his being "difficult to work with" or "more trouble than it is worth", fair or unfair.
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He "wore out his welcome" the last 2 years or so.
I remember the "firekarlhobbs.com" site getting more visitors than the old "GWhoops.com" site back then. The performance on the court didn't help his cause either.
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The very end was a dumpster fire - recall Greg Colucci’s big find - a “hidden gem” named Matt Aiibriton. 😂😂
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Karl's 3 year run from 2005-07 at GW, the apex of the program (arguably 1993/94 but I'd take 05-07 for the true peak.
In those 3 years, 3 straight NCAA Tourneys and a NCAA Tourney win, and of course the #6 National ranking. 38-10 in the A10. 2 A10 Tourney Titles, the only 2 in Program history.
In the 15 years since he was fired, GW has made 1 NCAA Trip, with 0 wins.
Hobbs then helped UCONN win a National Title under Kevin Ollie, and then as the Associate Coach with Pikiell the complete turnaround at Rutgers from the very bottom of the Big10 to consecutive NCAA trips. Notably they've fallen off a cliff since Karl left.
That's a heckuva resume to never get a 2nd chance at a Head Job. Pushing the edges of recruiting rules is generally coveted in the industry, not discouraged.
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I don't buy the idea that Hobbs was "blackballed" because of recruiting violations. He was fired because the program took a dive after 2007. As to the recruits, I will never forget the end of the 26-1 season in 2006 when we won at the buzzer on Saturday; were rated #6 in the country; and the Wash Post has a FRONT PAGE headline story about the recruiting of Omar Williams. What they didn't mention was Omar was on the Dean's list that year. I also learned the Post had planned a bigger recruiting story about Georgetown but that was set aside to go after GW.
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AT Hiker wrote:
I don't buy the idea that Hobbs was "blackballed" because of recruiting violations. He was fired because the program took a dive after 2007. As to the recruits, I will never forget the end of the 26-1 season in 2006 when we won at the buzzer on Saturday; were rated #6 in the country; and the Wash Post has a FRONT PAGE headline story about the recruiting of Omar Williams. What they didn't mention was Omar was on the Dean's list that year. I also learned the Post had planned a bigger recruiting story about Georgetown but that was set aside to go after GW.
Just because he was fired for one set of reasons does not necessarily mean that these same reasons are what's kept him from being a head coach again. Clearly, he was fired for the final four years of his GW tenure though his last recruiting class which featured Lasan Kromah, David Pellom, and Dwayne Smith among others did show some promise relative to the prior few seasons.
Next, I would hope we can all agree that without Omargate or any whiff of moral dilemmas with respect to recruiting, if we solely looked at the heights that this program reached under Hobbs (The Dude has already listed them so I won't bother), that some other D1 program would have hired KH as its head coach based on these past accomplishments. Then, add the success that he enjoyed as an Assistant at UConn and Rutgers and it's mind boggling to think that nobody would offer KH a head coaching job based purely on his coaching performance.
So if we can get to the point where we can agree on this, then what else is there except KH left GW marked as "damaged goods" who showed that he needed to bend the rules or break the rules (again, he didn't break any but that doesn't mean that this perception does not exist by many) in order to field highly successful teams. "The juice is not worth the squeeze" can easily sum up how university presidents and athletic directors felt about the subject of hiring KH as their head coach after 2007.
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Gwmayhem wrote:
So if we can get to the point where we can agree on this, then what else is there except KH left GW marked as "damaged goods" who showed that he needed to bend the rules or break the rules (again, he didn't break any but that doesn't mean that this perception does not exist by many) in order to field highly successful teams. "The juice is not worth the squeeze" can easily sum up how university presidents and athletic directors felt about the subject of hiring KH as their head coach after 2007.
Tom Penders managed to get hired after showing his disregard for the rules. As did John Callipari. And Rick Pitino. And Sean Miller. Now, guess what they have in common that KH does not have. (Hint: It is not a one-off story in the Washington Post that was unflattering; you need to use your eyes and you can see it!).
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Fordham and Memphis are currently on probation for recruiting violations. A level 2 violation prohibits more than $75 per day for entertainment! Leave it to the NCAA to provide the needed humor in todays world of players making 6 and 7 figures. Soon we'll have a maximum allowable wager per game.
As GW Alum said, I will use my eyes to see that Hobbs was a 4 year starter and captain at UCONN, was an all Big East selection, and was part of an NCAA championship coaching staff. Not to mention he is 6th all-time in assists at UCONN. He worked out, recruited and developed 10-20 future NBA stars. He knows the game really really well and my guess is that Duquesne is going to improve as a result of hiring him. I'm not sure he cares about being a head coach at this point. There's something to be said for letting someone else take the heat and enjoying the game for what it is.
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GW Alum Abroad wrote:
Gwmayhem wrote:
So if we can get to the point where we can agree on this, then what else is there except KH left GW marked as "damaged goods" who showed that he needed to bend the rules or break the rules (again, he didn't break any but that doesn't mean that this perception does not exist by many) in order to field highly successful teams. "The juice is not worth the squeeze" can easily sum up how university presidents and athletic directors felt about the subject of hiring KH as their head coach after 2007.
Tom Penders managed to get hired after showing his disregard for the rules. As did John Callipari. And Rick Pitino. And Sean Miller. Now, guess what they have in common that KH does not have. (Hint: It is not a one-off story in the Washington Post that was unflattering; you need to use your eyes and you can see it!).
This is another discussion where people feel compelled to argue that it must be one or the other. No, Hobbs as a head coach did not have Pitino's or Calipari's 900+ career wins or Miller's +.700 winning percentage. He didn't even have TP's 594 career wins although Penders should be treated differently in that he was hired at GW for reasons well beyond his coaching record. If the argument is that these are all more successful head coaches than Hobbs, mission accomplished.
Hobbs did not have the overall resume to warrant receiving multiple chances as a head coach due to questionable recruiting practices. At the same time, if we can pretend that Omargate never happened, it's very hard to fathom a head coach having the success in years 3-6 of KH's tenure that KH had and then never receive another head coaching job (despite staying in coaching his entire career). I'll make it easy: can you name a comparable example?
My point is that had KH had the coaching resume of others you mentioned, or had he not encountered any recruiting issues while at GW, he would most certainly would have been a head coach someplace else. Because he lacked the coaching credentials you cited, I'll contend that he wasn't worth taking a chance on as a head coach in the eyes of university presidents and athletic directors.
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All of these comments assume that Hobbs could not have gotten another head coaching job all these years, but I'm not sure that's true. I think it is entirely possible that he could have got a job as a head coach at a low major, but preferred to be an assistant coach at a P5 school. Salaries are probably comparable, if not better at the latter, and he got to coach a higher caliber of players. And maybe he thought this was a better long-term career choice than fighting for scraps and potentially failing at a low major.
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DC Native wrote:
All of these comments assume that Hobbs could not have gotten another head coaching job all these years, but I'm not sure that's true. I think it is entirely possible that he could have got a job as a head coach at a low major, but preferred to be an assistant coach at a P5 school. Salaries are probably comparable, if not better at the latter, and he got to coach a higher caliber of players. And maybe he thought this was a better long-term career choice than fighting for scraps and potentially failing at a low major.
One thing we used to see more of is the hiring of "retread" college coaches. I'm thinking of guys like Oliver Purnell etc. who would be out of the game for a few years and then reappear at smaller schools. I think with the landscape of CBB changing so much, schools are much more inclined now to hire young ACs or G League coaches who are more in tune with the current system and who do not have that legacy of operating in the old ways of building a program (FWIW, I think ML getting back into coaching would face these same headwinds).
Hobbs is interesting because he has obviously still been around the game as an AC while the NIL and transfer portal rules have changed, but I would bet ADs are probably viewing him as part of the old guard and not someone they'd be willing to stake their own careers on. Call it a bias, or age discrimination, but KH may just be on the wrong side of generational change in CBB.
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GW0509 wrote:
DC Native wrote:
All of these comments assume that Hobbs could not have gotten another head coaching job all these years, but I'm not sure that's true. I think it is entirely possible that he could have got a job as a head coach at a low major, but preferred to be an assistant coach at a P5 school. Salaries are probably comparable, if not better at the latter, and he got to coach a higher caliber of players. And maybe he thought this was a better long-term career choice than fighting for scraps and potentially failing at a low major.
One thing we used to see more of is the hiring of "retread" college coaches. I'm thinking of guys like Oliver Purnell etc. who would be out of the game for a few years and then reappear at smaller schools. I think with the landscape of CBB changing so much, schools are much more inclined now to hire young ACs or G League coaches who are more in tune with the current system and who do not have that legacy of operating in the old ways of building a program (FWIW, I think ML getting back into coaching would face these same headwinds).
Hobbs is interesting because he has obviously still been around the game as an AC while the NIL and transfer portal rules have changed, but I would bet ADs are probably viewing him as part of the old guard and not someone they'd be willing to stake their own careers on. Call it a bias, or age discrimination, but KH may just be on the wrong side of generational change in CBB.
All of this may be true now, but I'm willing to bet that back in 2012 he could have gotten a head coaching job at a school like UMES, Hampton, UVA Wise, or some other such school in the area.
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Oh absolutely, and I think it goes to your point about salaries being comparable. Not disagreeing with you on that one.