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All Division 1 Team Tournament
Saw that the ACC coaches want to support an end of year March Madness where all Division 1 teams are invited. While I do not think it will happen, it would be a huge windfall money wise if you could broadcast early games online. As revenue along would be big since it would attract a lot of viewers imo. Then to your normal Corp partner (Still CBS?) once you got it down to 64.
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I understand that the ACC coaches are proposing this because of all the TV money they would make, not to celebrate college basketball, but I this idea. 2020-2021 won't be your typical college basketball season with COVID still running rampant causing cancellations and restrictions, so why not try something like this out. A twitter commenter(responding to Jon Rothstein) did the math and concluded that there would be about 3 more games/rounds with this format. I'm going to take his word for it!!
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I'd be fine with this if I knew for a fact beforehand that this would be a one-time occurrence. The possible problem is that it makes too much money (which granted, the NCAA/schools desperately need this year) and then gets adopted permanently. That would be bad. Making the NCAA's has always represented a significant achievement, and this should not change in the long run.
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I'm a cynic. I'm feeling like the main driver for the ACC coaches is protection of their jobs.
Simple math: If there are no non-conference games, the mid-tier ACC teams will have 9-11 records, instead of being 20-12. This is a way to make sure their losing records don't keep them from post-season play.
Just my humble opinion that this is all in their self-interest, and not about tv money.
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Rothstein tweeted that the NCAA is not looking to expand the NCAA tournament in any way in 2021, per Dan Gavitt.
I liked the idea as a 1-time occurrence, but Gwmayhem and BGF both bring up good points about the ulterior motives (job security for coaches with more teams in and the possibility of making this permanent) of the greedy BCS schools.
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I´d go for a 300+ team tournament with one caveat-- brackets are determined by totally random drawing. That would mean no seeding, so UNC would be as likely to play Cal Tech or GW as they would be to play Kansas or Kentucky. (OK, for cost/travel facilitation I could see regionalizing teams for the first couple of rounds and agree to keep conference foes from facing each other in round 1). It would an F.A. Cup on steroids, and there would be no favouritism for network/corporate interests.
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By the way, I do think the coach's security argument is a silly one. It's not like athletic directors are going to surmise, "well, he did make the tournament" when everyone makes the tournament. Instead, they will look at how far they went into the tournament. If a coach on the hot seat doesn't advance his team to the final 64 in a 300+ team field, this would likely be considered the equivalent by most of not making the tournament under its current format.
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I would completely buy-into this this tournament format if some of the money would be shared with the players. My reasoning is simple, and perhaps even simple minded. There is no basketball without the players. The players risk injury and getting infected with COVID-19. While it may be a labor of love, playing basketball for the players is a serious commitment, like a 2nd job. Student athletes shouldn't be cheap labor, and because most of the players are black, its become offensive (at least to some people) that they are being used for profit. For so many years, the NCAA has used the players to line the pockets of coaches and administrators.
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As a one-time deal, I like the idea. With what we've all been through this year, I feel like everyone has earned this "treat." I think it would be good for college basketball.
And for those of you who are worried that this is going to become an every-year thing, don't worry, there's no way the power conferences would let that happen. --Having a lock on the bids is how they maintain their power. I'm actually surprised the ACC even suggested it.
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GW Alum Abroad wrote:
I´d go for a 300+ team tournament with one caveat-- brackets are determined by totally random drawing. That would mean no seeding, so UNC would be as likely to play Cal Tech or GW as they would be to play Kansas or Kentucky. (OK, for cost/travel facilitation I could see regionalizing teams for the first couple of rounds and agree to keep conference foes from facing each other in round 1). It would an F.A. Cup on steroids, and there would be no favouritism for network/corporate interests.
Even though the BCS schools would never agree to this(they'd want a format where the elite BCS schools get multiple bye's into the later rounds!!), I'd love to see something like this. Imagine the amount of disgust from the BCS schools if we got some Duke-Kansas, North Carolina-Michigan State, Kentucky-Villanova matchups in the 1st round of a 300+ team tournament!! I