There are a lot worse things, than winning a lot of games against any type of schedule

things like having to fire the Coach for abusing the players.

 

GWRising wrote:

Of course there are many things worse winning a lot of games against any type of schedule. One them is having to pay out a coach's salary while at the same time paying another coach, all because you wrongfully terminated the first coach with hearsay accusations while ignoring far more egregious and offensive conduct occurring in other areas.

But back to the schedule. Gwmayhem, I think you could make an argument that a couple of the other seasons you referenced are as bad if not worse given the differing positions of the program.

That said, there is an old adage in sports that you should never apologize for winning even against cupcakes. We haven't had enough winning around here lately. Let's win and then adjust the level of the program schedule. Right now, we are playing what a schedule should look like for a team coming off a 227 KenPom ranking. If we win 20+ games and then in 2022-23 we play a similar schedule, I think you will have a legitimate gripe. I don't expect that to happen (that being we play a similar schedule if we win this year).. 

GWRising, when GW was 26-1 in 2005-06, I recall doing a lot of apologizing to many people who claimed how overrated the team was because it hadn't played anyone.  The reality was we'd never know how great that team really could have been because it hardly did play anyone.

BrianPaul wrote:

  I’ve been watching GWU basketball since 1965.  I had season tickets for 30 years.  This schedule confirms my opinions: crappy program crappy schedule crappy board (sorry Barry) crappy posters

I can’t do anything about the schedule or the program,   Those are outside my pay grade.  😬😬😬

As for the board, I don’t take it personally that you think it’s crappy.  I sometimes feel the same way.  But it is the only place on the imterwebs where the remaining diehard GW fans have a forum.   I encourage the creation of a new site for anyone who wants to do so.  👍

BGF -- Thank you for the board. Those who dislike the board can start their own or just go away.
Also, thank you to GWMayhem and GWRising for your many posts. Appreciate your interest and it's fun reading your different viewpoints. 

Thank you GW73.  I am hopeful that most of us can see the vast differences between healthy debates (which is how I would describe my differences with GWRising) and unhealthy ones.

And, thank you to Barry who keeps it going so us diehards have a forum to both praise and vent.

Last point, I'll speak for myself when I say that if I truly found this board to be crappy, I'd visit it a lot less frequently, if at all.

As a very casual fan all I can say is -wake me up when the seasons over.Obviously I care if they win or lose-
but -a win (other than Maryland)will get a shrug and a loss will have me shaking my head and wondering 
if I need therapy for my continued unresolved masochism issues.
I understand that there is a “ process” in order to return to some prominence in the NCAAB world-but I can’t 
help but find this disheartening.

Mentzinger wrote:

The baseline expectation is that GW competes for an NCAA bid every year. This schedule and this AD clearly do not agree with that aspiration.

It is? Since when? I mean, I hope we get to that point but history shows us that getting to the NCAA tournament takes an almost stars aligning scenario.

Historically we’ve been a middle of the pack A-10 school with a few years where we’ve bubbled up to the top 4. ML’s teams really should’ve gone to the NCAAs 3 years in a row, but looking at how the selection committee screws over conferences like the A-10, the only way we can be “competing” for bids every year is if we get to the level of Dayton or VCU, which absent some booster like Boone Pickens, we will probably never do.

I think more accurately we should say we should be competing for postseason bids to the CBI and NIT. That is a far more realistic and obtainable goal for a program that has limited financial capabilities.

I hear ya GWmayhem.  I just think the ML years showed just how hard it is to get into the tournament, even if we play a difficult schedule, and I don't think that disadvantage has gotten any better.  Our NIT year we should've been a lock for the tournament but bad losses to DePaul and SLU meant we were sweating even making the NITs.  

I'd say the best argument for playing a tough OOC schedule is it helps the conference as a whole when it comes to Selection Sunday.  The more A-10 schools get in every year, the more money for the conference and maybe we'd become a "3 bid league" every season.  That worked in our favor in 2014 when we were able to luck into a bubble spot along with 5 other A-10 schools.  

GW0509 wrote:

I hear ya GWmayhem.  I just think the ML years showed just how hard it is to get into the tournament, even if we play a difficult schedule, and I don't think that disadvantage has gotten any better.  Our NIT year we should've been a lock for the tournament but bad losses to DePaul and SLU meant we were sweating even making the NITs.  

I'd say the best argument for playing a tough OOC schedule is it helps the conference as a whole when it comes to Selection Sunday.  The more A-10 schools get in every year, the more money for the conference and maybe we'd become a "3 bid league" every season.  That worked in our favor in 2014 when we were able to luck into a bubble spot along with 5 other A-10 schools.  

To put it another way I’d say the only way we can be realistically competing for bids is if we get to where we consistently lose 8 or fewer games a year total and even then it depends on who we lose to.

Well that's a fact. Team missed the tourney because of an A10 collapse not scheduling.

You started a thread title "we quit" after one such collapse.

Crying about the schedule when the team has a 227 KenPom and picked 13th out of 14th is lunacy. Team is rebuilding not chasing an at large bid

I wasn't down on the collapse, things happen. I'm not down on the schedule, its smart given the current strength of the program. Anyone scheduling GW would say "we're playing them ugh, #227"   I wasn't down on Jarvis Hobbs Penders ML JC or Mojo either, 90% of my posts are uplift oriented positivity, you must have slept through the last 6 years.  But, there is a bullshit mountain that goes on here about the recent past and present. 

I don't believe anyone thinks we should playing a hard schedule right now, just the latest thing to complain about, and then if the team does win a few extra games than expected, "weak schedule" will be the retort.

 I'll be here celebrating the wins.   

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