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1. Jarvis
2. Hobbs
3. Sutton/Strickland
Will JC joins the ranks??
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don’t underestimate gimelstob as a recruiter. brown, oreilly, both websters, dawson, woodside, nate williams and more. couldn’t keep some of the best but he could certainly recruit them.
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Let´s see: Penders got GW´s all-time leading scorer. ML got GW´s last NBA prospects/players. Jennifer Bednarek (who was only at GW for a year) got the most transformational player in GW history. Joe McKeown got the greatest run of teams in GW history. Someone(s) got Collin Powell and Jackie Bouvier to matriculate. There would be no GW if Leo´s Deli had not been lured to campus. So yeah, a two-year coach with a losing record and complete roster turnover in the midst of a global pandemic should be considered for the list...
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It's beyond embarrassing not to include Ed Meyers on this list. He's probably the single best recruiter ever out of Washington DC. The man discovered Yinka which to put it mildly, put GW on the basketball map.
GWAA, while Chris Monroe did in fact sign to play for Penders, it was my understanding that he was very interested in playing for Jarvis whose staff was recruiting him prior to TP's arrival.
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My GW fan history doesn't predate the Jarvis era, so any other notable omissions in the pre-Jarvis decades?
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Meyers was an assistant to Jarvis.
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Yes,and we need to do head coaches and assistants separately. Ignoring the obvious and tiresome attempt.
Yes,Meyers if he landed Yinka,very true.
However,he has a huge asterisk.
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Mike Jarvis was a helluva good recruiter. So was Sutton/Strickland
What about 50s 60s?
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This is just a roundabout way to troll. Mention two head coaches, but for ML do the assistants. It's the same way of making the same stupid point. If you really wanted to get into this, you can say the same things about Hobbs. He was never able to bring in the same top level talent after Kevin Broadus and Steve Pikell left. But then, the ruins the fun of trying to rile people up.
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Unfortunately it became crystal clear without Sutton and Strickland our recruiting turned into a feeder for Delaware and American
The earlyish 2000s Hobbs could be the pinnacle in terms of pure talent
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I think Jarvis deserves extra credit, because he wasn't drafting behind a successful predecessor. He really turned around a bad situation.
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I have always been a large Jarvis fan. But, I disagree that he was a great recruiter. Once two ALL-Met players came to his office asking to come to GW. He thought they were not good enough. Both went to St Boniventure and received all league honors. Once a very bouncy short guard was interested in GW. Jarvis as was his technique offered him under the requirement that he would commit in several minutes. This guard went elsewhere. Who can forget Wally Szczerbiak. Both his dad and Bob Tallent where recruiting him to GW. Again a few minute requirement was attached to a luke warm offer. He went somewhere else. Perhaps all coaches have these hit and misses with recruiting but these stood out to me.
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Agree about Jarvis being extremely impressive in light of the lack of success of the predecessor.
Hobbs in time took the program to new heights at 26-1, with levels of talent we'd never yet seen, and we've failed to build on that. 15 years now without a tourney win.
Also, on a short of best players in GW history, Jarvis brought in 2 of the 4 best ever. 4 or 5 of the best 15.
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Recall another recent successful GW coach,too.
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Even the consistent coupling of Kevin Sutton and Pete Strickland, as if they were a single person, is both erroneous and misleading. Sutton worked hard and has since been hired by Georgetown, Pittsburgh, URI, and Florida Gulf Coast as an assistant (often as the lead assistant). Kevin is a gym rat, much the same way his boss at GW was. It may say something that Pete, since leaving GW a few weeks before the start of practice for a new season, has remained connected to basketball yet has not worked for another college or university. Pete was older and for whatever reason, did not want to put in the hours that ML demanded. Pete was very involved in bringing Zeke Armwood to GW and not much else.
Since 1965, GW players who played in the NBA:
Lonergan (3): Pato, Tyler, Yuta
Hobbs (2): Pops, Mike Hall
Jarvis (1): Yinka
Gimelstob (1): Mike Brown
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Pinnock was drafted in the second round as a junior. Should there be an accounting of players who have had long international careers? That is a much more likely path for a GW player.
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SmithCenterAlum, I'm not inclined to do this research but it hardly matters. Nobody is trying to make the point that ML was a better recruiter than Jarvis or Hobbs. The simple points to be made are that: a) ML was an extremely active recruiter, attending many more high school and AAU games than many other head coaches, and b) he was able to identify, recruit, and land outstanding talent well past Kevin and Pete left the program. Both of these points are factual statements, not opinions.
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Hobbs brought in more talent, had GW ranked 6th in the nation and won an NCAA tourney game making 3 straight NCAA tourney trips.
What transpired since has been a collective disaster. Fired the last 3 Coaches. Also, the 13 of the last 14 ML recruits, post Sutton/Strickland transfered out, 11 of them transfered down, mostly way down. Disaster final years of recruiting, stock was heading down well before the firing.
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The Dude wrote:
Hobbs brought in more talent, had GW ranked 6th in the nation and won an NCAA tourney game making 3 straight NCAA tourney trips.
What transpired since has been a collective disaster. Fired the last 3 Coaches. Also, the 13 of the last 14 ML recruits, post Sutton/Strickland transfered out, 11 of them transfered down, mostly way down. Disaster final years of recruiting, stock was heading down well before the firing.
Lmao anyone listening to this moron deserves a matching bicycle helmet to ride his "smaller" bus
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Barry? The Ad Hominem attacks on every thread?
Is there an Admin for this site?