GW Hoops / Other Games Thread

**Posted by The Dude** 11/21/2023 1:38 am

UConn beats Texas with ease at the Garden

Purdue handles Gonzaga. Could see those teams in the Title game this year. Kansas UConn and Purdue, even though they got stunned last year in round 1, happened to UVA before their title.

**Posted by keithgreene** 11/21/2023 10:28 am

Reminder, before they lost last year to FDU in the NCAAs, they lost the year before to St. Peter's.

**Posted by The Dude** 11/21/2023 3:38 pm

That they did, and UVA lost to UMBC, and then won the title the very next year.

**Posted by The Dude** 11/21/2023 7:24 pm

1 from history: UConn's victory over Texas was their 22nd straight win over a nonconference opponent by a double-digit margin, dating back to the start of last season and including the Huskies' dominant run through the NCAA tournament.

North Carolina's 23 straight double-digit wins over nonconference opponents from Nov. 2008 to Nov. 2009 is the longest such streak in the past 40 years.

UConn established itself as the best team in the country during the first half of last season, winning all 11 of its nonconference games by double-digits. After an up-and-down Big East campaign, the Huskies received a 4-seed in the NCAA tournament -- and promptly won six games en route to the national championship by an average of 20.0 points, the fourth largest average margin since the tournament expanded in 1985. They were the fifth team since 1985 to win all six of its NCAA tournament games by double-digits.

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**Posted by Free Quebec** 11/22/2023 10:08 pm

Hofstra just won a small tourney. Destroyed a terrible Buffalo team, beat an ok Wright St team handily, and then beat High Point in OT for the title behind 40 from Thomas.

Not sure what this win will do for their KenPom, but they’ll likely be in the 115-120 range. They dropped down to the 150 range after we thumped them.

**Posted by The Dude** 11/23/2023 8:39 am

In Maui Gonzaga beats UCLA and Syracuse

Purdue beats Marquette

UConn Purdue and Kansas looking very much the early title favorites.

Edey vs Dickinson would be a fun title matchup

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**Posted by Long Suffering Fan** 11/23/2023 9:32 am

Free Quebec wrote:
Hofstra just won a small tourney. Destroyed a terrible Buffalo team, beat an ok Wright St team handily, and then beat High Point in OT for the title behind 40 from Thomas.

Not sure what this win will do for their KenPom, but they’ll likely be in the 115-120 range. They dropped down to the 150 range after we thumped them.

Hofstra now 115. GW at 154, with SOS at 342.

**Posted by BM** **Online!** 11/23/2023 11:00 am

As an illustration of the effect of last year’s KenPom in our current #154 standing, NC State currently has a worse SOS (#349 vs #342) with wins against The Citadel, Abilene Christian and Charleston Southern, but they have a KenPom of #52. The difference is that our ending KenPom last year was #217 while NC State’s was #52.

**Posted by GW0509** 11/23/2023 11:45 am

BM wrote:
As an illustration of the effect of last year’s KenPom in our current #154 standing, NC State currently has a worse SOS (#349 vs #342) with wins against The Citadel, Abilene Christian and Charleston Southern, but they have a KenPom of #52. The difference is that our ending KenPom last year was #217 while NC State’s was #52.

100%.

Under Bart Tovik's rankings (most bearish on us preseason) we are #247 overall but #92 if you remove all of their preseason priors. I wish KenPom had a similar feature.

**Posted by Free Quebec** 11/24/2023 5:54 pm

Love that Torvik shows where we’d be without the preseason expectation. 92 seems about right for what I’ve seen, though of course all at home.

At any rate, UIC is currently waxing a no-show Middle Tennessee St by 20. MTSU had scored a whopping 28 points in 29 minutes. I would prefer not to play them tomorrow, not only because I want to win today, but because they will be a wounded animal and surely not play this badly again.

**Posted by gwstudent2024** 11/24/2023 6:32 pm

Anyone else surprised by the margin by which UIC beat MTSU? 70-40 is a whooping. Seemed like it was going to be much tighter coming in (Kenpom had MTSU winning 65-62).

UNCG over Kansas City 76-64 in the early game, Delaware over Brown 67-59 on the other side of the bracket.

Tomorrow's schedule:
11 AM: Kansas City-Brown. Neither team has a D1 win so far this year.
1:30 PM: MTSU-GW/Ohio loser
4:30 PM: Delaware-UNCG
7 PM: UIC-GW/Ohio winner

**Posted by Free Quebec** 11/24/2023 6:50 pm

I’m sure they’ll win going away, but at halftime Duke trails Southern Indiana by 4 at home. Good reminder that anyone can play with anyone at any time.

**Posted by Free Quebec** 11/25/2023 3:44 pm

Ohio bounces back 80-68 over Middle Tennessee. Tough tourney for MTSU.

**Posted by PKGW** 11/26/2023 7:57 pm

A-10 undefeated today

**Posted by DC Native** 11/26/2023 8:34 pm

GW appears to be much better this year than in recent years, but so is the A10. Four teams in the KenPom top 100, only one team +200 (just barely), and everyone else in the 100s, just like us and our last three opponents.

**Posted by Hugh** 11/26/2023 8:44 pm

DC Native wrote:
GW appears to be much better this year than in recent years, but so is the A10. Four teams in the KenPom top 100, only one team +200 (just barely), and everyone else in the 100s, just like us and our last three opponents.

no one really in the at-large picture though. May be a one bid league again.

**Posted by Buff&BlueBandit** 11/26/2023 8:46 pm

DC Native wrote:
GW appears to be much better this year than in recent years, but so is the A10. Four teams in the KenPom top 100, only one team +200 (just barely), and everyone else in the 100s, just like us and our last three opponents.

As of this evening GW has now played the 111, 112, and 113 KenPom teams and come out 2-1 (Ohio, Hofstra, and UIC in order).

Top 100 games coming up include 68 South Carolina, 69 Dayton, 79 Richmond, 80 Duquesne, and VCU 83. If we went 3-2 against these five (5) and won the majority of our remaining schedule does anyone think we could end up a Top 100 Team by end of season?

**Posted by GW0509** 11/26/2023 9:08 pm

Buff&BlueBandit wrote:
Top 100 games coming up include 68 South Carolina, 69 Dayton, 79 Richmond, 80 Duquesne, and VCU 83. If we went 3-2 against these five (5) and won the majority of our remaining schedule does anyone think we could end up a Top 100 Team by end of season?

Lonergan's 12-13 team started the season KP 173 and got it to 91 by Feb 2nd.

That team only needed 1 sub-100 KP win and 3 sub-130 KP wins to do that. What helped was they whooped on some teams.

72-59 vs. BU
80-56 vs. Hofstra
77-38 vs. Sacred Heart
78-59 vs. Bona
82-54 vs. Charlotte

Let's see what happens after SC. We have a stretch where we really can put some strong numbers into the KP algorithm.

**Posted by Free Quebec** 11/26/2023 9:16 pm

Greensboro hits 2 FTs with 3 seconds left to beat UIC in the championship.

In the RPI era, those FTs would have been a big deal. In the KenPom era, 2 points not that big a deal (and win vs loss doesn’t really count, maybe counts slightly in the NET ratings).

**Posted by AT Hiker** 11/27/2023 7:59 pm

Did anyone notice Noel Brown had 16 points and 8 boards for the Bonnies against Miami, Ohio?