Alum '04 wrote:

DC Native wrote:

Amazing!!! What a day for the A10!

Eat shit, NCAA and NCAA selection committee!

Now this sums up the relationship between the A-10 (and other non-P5 leagues) and
the NCAA.
  And what TC points out above--really enjoyed seeing Oakland, Mich. beat blue blood Kentucky
last night--is the cherry on top of it.

Last edited by jf (3/22/2024 11:19 am)

BC wrote:

A10 is but 1-3 in the NIT though 2 losses were against #1 seeds, iirc.

Need to keep in mind every one of the four games was on the home court of the higher seeded NIT opponent.

On the flip side, the Big East had five teams in the NIT hosting all but one of the games as four of its teams were higher seeds.  The BE went 1-4.

Tennessee Colonial wrote:

Should be a good reason to reduce Big 5 teams in Tourney because of their poor performance. Of course they won't schedule mid majors because of fear of getting beat. 

Unfortunately the opposite has been recently occurring and is likely to continue.  It has already squeezed many non P5 league teams out of at large bids.  Many in the P5 do not want to stop there.  The SEC commissioner and Michigan State Head Coach Tom Izzo have in fact come out in the last few days advocating for the elimination of lesser league's automatic berths in the tournament arguing for P5 teams to replace them.     
 

The Dude wrote:

Tennessee Colonial wrote:

Two days ago SEC commissioner Greg Sankey advocated for taking away NCAA tourney bids from smaller leagues because they couldn’t compete. The SEC is now 0-3 and mighty Kentucky was sent home by Horizon League champ Oakland   

Yet year after year the NCAA tournament proves just the opposite to be true even though these smaller schools are always up against it in the seed line

Did Duquesne or Dayton look like they did not belong? Oakland? Samford? Even the majority of the 15 seeds played a competitive game.

What about all those schools that we never get to see like Indiana State?

Reminder that the year VCU made a run to the final four they got an at large bid as an 11 seed from the colonial! Those days are long gone. Under the current criteria GW tournament appearances would be mostly wiped out with the exception of the conference titles in 2005 and 2007. The O6 team would be a nail biter bubble team on selection day

Gonzaga spent almost the entire season as a supposed bubble team because of a so-called lack of quad one wins. They are 12 in the computer and probably the most impressive team on day one. If not for a game or two down the stretch they are not even in the tournament of this current criteria

How much of the national discussion is there of this? Most of the whining went to St John's not getting included! Poor St Johns!

FAU playing right now looks better than northwestern more athletic you'd have a hard time figuring out who was the power 5 squad if you didn't know. Same thing last year when they went to the final four and San Diego State the national championship game and Gonzaga to the elite 8.

There are so many good players in the sport now the gaps between power schools and the best non power 5 is just non-existent except that the very top. Connecticut is in a different class but once you get by a few truly elite teams the gaps between these squads very small hence why so many of the games are so competitive

Dayton has a 23 NET but was there even that big of a gap between them and the six to seven schools in the a-10 that were 70 to 95 in the computer?

Duquesne was about 60 spots lower in the computer than BYU but when you watch the two teams play there wasn't much of a gap at all, that's not a one game phenomena that's just the reality of the talent on both teams.

There is no Gap at all between a power 5 team with a 50 computer and the smaller schools with the same computer rankings but those schools have no chance at all ever getting an at large bid anymore

Gonzaga Florida Atlantic and Dayton got the three bids all of them inside of the top 25 and all three may go three for three in the tournament

Western Kentucky 43  Marquette 33 
 

This bears repeating: 

Under the current criteria GW tournament appearances would be mostly wiped out with the exception of the conference titles in 2005 and 2007. The O6 team would be a nail biter bubble team on selection day

So to understand this correctly, today, an A10 team who is 26-2 on Selection Sunday would be on the bubble biting their nails.


Just an ignorant, uninformed take OR the secure work of a troll?  (Either way, maybe the dumbest thing I've ever read here.)

Please vote.

Coach Dambrot is a feel good national story. Happy for the Duke's.

I'm in LA for work this week and Dambrot is getting almost as much attention here as the Shohei Ohtani story. Mainly because of his Lebron connection, who is "the man" out here.

Yale beats Auburn!

Maybe one of these years we can get more of these teams in and subtract half a dozen power five?

Put the Princeton team in the tournament that made the sweet 16 last year and was even better this year


Take away that rubbish Virginia team.

James Madison pounds Wisconsin!!

In total control for 40 minutes, as impressive a huge upset as it gets!! 

James Madison a 30 win team that beat Michigan State on the road,  that would not have received an at large invite 

Yale Oakland James Madison, we do indeed need more of these teams and fewer 18-14 Power 5s.

Greg Gard in the tourney since 2018:

Missed the tourney, 15-18
Lost round 1  to the 12 seed
No tourney
Lost round 2
Lost as a 3 seed to the 11 seed, round 2
Missed the tourney again
Lost round 1  to the 12 seed 

Wisconsin was 16-4 and #6 in the country, lost 10 of their 16 games to end the year

Last edited by The Dude (3/22/2024 11:44 pm)

The Dude wrote:

James Madison pounds Wisconsin!!

In total control for 40 minutes, as impressive a huge upset as it gets!! 

James Madison a 30 win team that beat Michigan State on the road,  that would not have received an at large invite 

Yale Oakland James Madison, we do indeed need more of these teams and fewer 18-14 Power 5s.

Greg Gard in the tourney since 2018:

Missed the tourney, 15-18
Lost round 1  to the 12 seed
No tourney
Lost round 2
Lost as a 3 seed to the 11 seed, round 2
Missed the tourney again
Lost round 1  to the 12 seed 

Wisconsin was 16-4 and #6 in the country, lost 10 of their 16 games to end the year

See, this is why we can't have so many non-power schools in the NCAA tournament. It's just not fair to the big schools, who have been anointed by God and G0d.

Sincerely,
SEC commissioner Greg Sankey

Dayton down 3 points  vs #2 seed Arizona, 10 minutes to go

Dayton is LEGIT.   They're right there vs a top 5 team

Recall this too was a team that was 1 or so less  "Quad 1 win" away from not being in the tourney based on this absurdly rigged criteria.



No idea if they pull this out but the gap between the 2 teams isn't tnat big. 
 

The Dude wrote:

Dayton down 3 points  vs #2 seed Arizona, 10 minutes to go

Dayton is LEGIT.   They're right there vs a top 5 team

Recall this too was a team that was 1 or so less  "Quad 1 win" away from not being in the tourney based on this absurdly rigged criteria.



No idea if they pull this out but the gap between the 2 teams isn't tnat big. 
 

Arizona was clearly the better team, although Dayton fought hard and represented the A10 well.