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Had been a little while since I made it to a game in person and man was it a fun one! Joe Bam couldn’t miss from 3 and then Bishop picked it up in the second half.
Only thing is I wish we could just keep a nice 8 point lead from say the 5 min mark til the end of the game. Much easier on the heart.
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A few thoughts.
Love the energy Brayon brings. Steady ball handling as well.
Bishop played much better D tonight. Stayed in from of his man most off the night.
Joe B electric scoring but benched several times for being out of control on offense. He needs to improve his positioning on D- let’s his man blow past him because he is not moving his feet. Also most of the offensive rebounds were either because he a- let his man get a swine on him forcing help defender leading to an open 3 or easy offensive rebound or B - not boxing out his own man.
Dean has much improved defensive positioning. As well as shot blocking by not leaving his feet. Also very clutch from the lone tonight.
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Brilliant games from JoeBam and Bishop, and kudos to Hunter Dean!
Fun, high scoring win, 4 wins in 6 games for GW
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Good shooting display and a win with some last second drama.
If Joe can can shoot like that consistently that would make a difference. Not holding out great hope,but showed a pure stroke tonight.
All 500 there saw quite an offensive display.
The 4 point foul in the waning seconds
brought back some bad memories.
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Lot of thoughts on this one. Will post more tomorrow, but that was a wild and fun game to watch. I can’t recall a game in the smith center where the two teams combined for 25 threes on as few as 52 attempts.
And I don’t think the defense was bad at all. Like us, LaSalle has not been a good shooting team. And since I know no one here pays much attention to opponents’ personnel as if we are the only team playing, just as we got great shooting from Joe and Qwanzi (early), they got great shooting from guys I’m sure we were happy to let fire away.
Brickus was 2-13 in A10 play, but went 5-8 tonight.
Brantley was 3-19 in A10 play, but went 2-4.
Big Man Clifton Moore is a 19% three point shooter this year, but went 1-2.
Christian Ray was 1-9 in A10 play, went 1-3.
I’m sure the game plan was to force those guys to settle for jumpers.
But their main shooter, Nickleberry, we worked hard on and held him to 1-4 and he didn’t get open looks.
We also let Clark jack up 3s because he’s a 29% shooter, and he went just 2-8.
Basically, it’s like playing against us and have Samuels, who was 3-17 in A10 play, knock down 2-3 because your game plan is to try to make Samuels beat you.
And Joe Bam was 14-41 in A10 before going an awesome 7-10 today. He looked like an NBA player, basically swishing every shot where he was squares and in rhythm. Would be so great to see him start to shoot consistently because he’s basically unguardable when he’s doing that.
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I will post more thoughts on the team winning that fun game,
but I want to use this post to point out what a crap job Jenna Renault did as a ref tonight. As far as I can tell this was her 7th D1 game (the other 6 of which were lopsided buy games or a bottom feeding big south game).
Here’s what caught my eye:
There was a foul on our end down the stretch that LaSalle’s coach didn’t like (even though it was an obvious foul). She was set up on the other side of the court from him, but came over to talk to him and the ref closes to LaSalle’s bench switched positions with her so she could be near the bench. I don’t know what was said; but she and the coach were talking and laughing for more than a few seconds. I’ve never seen a ref switch positions after a play to give the opposing coach a chance to work them, nor have I seen a ref seem that demonstratively chummy with an opposing coach. A little joke or something here there is common, but this seemed like a lot more camaraderie than normal.
Ok, fine, no big deal.
But then she made two of the worst calls of the year to help LaSalle stay in it. On one, an offensive player put his shoulder into a stationary JoeBam’s chest so hard it actually seemed to injure Joe, who stayed down for a bit. She didn’t blow the whistle.
Then, with the seconds ticking down and LaSalle down 5, she gave the worst 4 point play foul I’ve seen. JoeyBam was nowhere near the guy shooting, didn’t contest it, but the guy basically jumped toward Bamasile after he released it and either made no contact or virtually none. I have no idea how she gave him him that foul - the way the LaSalle coach worked her earlier probably wasn’t the reason, but who knows because it was as gifty a call as you’ll see.
The refs were actually good about not giving players the call for kicking their legs out on a shot, but this was far worse to actually draw a call that almost changed the game.
I’m sure she’s just inexperienced and will be a great ref one day, but I hope we don’t see her in the Smith center again after those calls.
Edit: I went back and watched and she wasn’t closest to the no call when they guy knocked Bamisile
over with 3 minutes left. Another ref was closest so not her call, though she did have a good angle and an experienced ref would have made that call anyway even if the guy on the baseline missed it. But since it wasn’t her right there, I owe an apology for that one.
However, it was definitely her who made that atrocious continuation 3 point play call for Dean after the defender flopped. I would imagine the A10 officiating office will take note of both that continuation call and the phantom 4 point play at the end.
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Thanks Mike K and GWMayhem!! That's really nice of you to say. I too wish we had a beat reporter, but I think we know what to expect from WaPo nowadays!
What a crazy game! I unfortunately only managed to catch a bit of the first half and the last media timeout of the game, but I might go back and check out the replay later. Good to sneak out the win, although Moore came really close to having the #1 play on SportsCenter had the ball not been overshot.
La Salle had really poor court awareness late in the game. On multiple possessions defensively, they cluelessly let Bishop either dribble around them or run down several seconds before fouling. Those seconds could have proven to be critical given La Salle's momentum in the final 5-6 minutes of the game.
The first half in particular looked like our preseason scrimmage. I never thought I'd see this team shoot like that, and couldn't believe that shot after shot was going in. A few games ago, we shot over 2% worse from 3 than the 13th place A10 team for the season. Now we are within .2% from leaving the basement in three point percentage. The team is shooting 35% from 3 in conference play. I'm not necessarily going to go as far and say that this team has some elite shooters or anything, but the improved ball movement (and shooting in rhythm) has made a huge difference.
I think Joe improved his 3-PT FG% by nearly 5% from this game alone - he's now 35% on the year which is actually decent. There's less of a problem with him shooting that many threes when they're shot in rhythm and not compromising good ball movement. Bishop has been making really good decisions offensively with the ball. Brayon bounced back with 7 assists! When he plays the role of the passer, this team has a lot of success. Qwanzi came in and made the shots given to him (is he now our certified game opener guy now?) Interesting that Ricky played half of Qwanzi's minutes. JC must have been going with the hot hand. Brendan the passer has been quietly very good for us. While his shooting is hard to watch at times, Adams does not turn the ball over which is a plus. If we need to have him bring the ball up in games late, I'd trust him.
I know battling down low wasn't easy, but what a turnaround for Hunter Dean these past few games. I'm not sure what initiated the change, but he looks like a completely different player. He's not overthinking things, and is playing aggressive. Dean did everything from making short jumpers to even taking it himself to the rim (already an improvement from the Fordham game!). His emergence has been the reason the team has been winning more games lately. Dean going 5-5 from the line made a big difference in the back and forth nature of the game after coming in as a 40% FT shooter (on a smallish sample size, but still).
Not sure what we're going to do about the rebounding issues. We won't shoot this well consistently to have a chance in games if we're outrebounded by 20. While there could have been a bit more boxing out, the big situation has to be addressed this offseason. Jabari has done a good job rebounding against lower competition in Arkansas, but I'm not sure how much we can expect from him immediately as a freshman. Keegan might be that guy, but I think we need to get another guy. Good to see Noel on the bench even though it ultimately led to a DNP. Davidson isn't the most menacing team inside, but we need Brown back playing ASAP. I thought we could have used Ricky in there a bit more to help out on the boards as well.
I said in the preview that "Doucouré wasn't much of a scorer down low, although anything is possible against our frontcourt". He came into the game scoring 6 combined points in La Salle's previous three games but scored 8 against us. It was his second best offensive game of the season after their game against Fordham (who might have the worst frontcourt in the league).
Part of the rebounding issue to me is due to our frontcourt being forced to rotate to defend an opposing guard penetrating to the hoop (and thus not be able to go for the rebound). We have been pretty bad defensively in conference play. While JB squared do have their moments defensively, they are out of position far too often which allows guards to get a quick first step on them on their way to the hoop. Both need to do a much better job of staying in front of their man. We may have followed the scouting report, but the defense was pretty bad tonight along the perimeter. La Salle had a ton of really wide open looks (including their better shooters) with guys nowhere near them. The way both teams were shooting they might have made the shot anyways, but still. If we did close out on a player, they easily dribbled around us and got a clean look. Our guys strangely looked gassed in the first half, maybe because the game was very high tempo.
Agree on Renault being an atrocious ref. The four point play late had hardly any contact. Refs are pretty particular when players are unable to land fully after launching a shot, but man it looked like La Salle had initiated that, along with Brickus clearly pushing off Joe on a previous play. I will say though that Hunter getting the and one in the first half was equally as bad. That might have been counted in the NBA, but is considered after the foul in college basketball. We got lucky on that one.
Next up is a tough one against Davidson, although at least it's at home. We may be double digit underdogs anyways. We'll definitely have to be a lot better defensively than we have in conference play so far.
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Good call on the and 1. I thought it was going to be a flop warning, but to give the foul and basket was terrible, and I’m pretty sure it was Renault who made that awful call too.
More thoughts on the game:
1) Bishop: Was fantastic again. Averaging 27.5ppg over his last 4. While I knew at halftime neither team could keep shooting like they had, the difference was that Bishop only had 4 points so you knew we another way to keep scoring.
One thing I really like that he’s added to his game is that since every opponent overplays to keep him from going left, he’s become really good at faking right and moving the ball to his left in a way that draws fouls. He’s done it a bit lately and it makes him unstoppabl and he did it at a key time with under 3 to go yesterday. Plus he’s been good going to his right too, so that’s brutal on defenders. He’s back to the guy from last year for whom a 12 foot pull up, even with a hand in his face, is practically a layup.
2) Bamisile: Not only was his shooting amazing (hopefully he starts to get the feel of what it means to shoot in rhythm), but her he’s set and squared like that, it’s almost impossible for defenders to contest because he jumps so high and has a reasonably quick release. He also disrupted multiple threes on close outs because he jumps so damn high that the shooter had to think about it. He’s a tremendous talent and one of the most joyful colonials ever - Pops-level on that front.
He did make a couple of bad decisions trying to force drives, but he’ll get there.
3) Brayon played a very solid game. Funny joe assists are no problem when your teammates shoot lights out. He did struggle a bit defensively and wasn’t able to get to the rim as well as usual, but he’s a strong player and I hope he gets recognized on the all rookie team (tougher than ever with transfers). Was interesting to see us go offense/defense with him and Qwanzi late in the game.
4) Qwanzi: those two big threes early really helped set the tone. Also his D was solid, but he had no chance to rebound against the aggressive LaSalle board crashers. It’s always nerve wracking when we run the lineup with Qwanzi at the 5, but I think it continues to be one of our top, if not the top, defensive lineups.
5) Dean: A lot has been said about him. I’ve been on the fence about how real this is (after all, we once saw Javier Langarica, a D3 level player, pull down a bunch of boards for a stretch because someone gets stats even on bad teams), but he’s really been improving each game. Today he looked more confident with the mid range jump shot, which was a great sign after the way Fordham guarded him. His shot blocking has been great too, but he also got pushed under the boards a lot. I’m not sold yet that we can be a top 100 team with Dean starting at center because I think the better teams will just overpower him, but he’s improved by leaps and bounds and he’s athletic so it’s been really fun to watch him develop the last few games. He’s going to have his hands full with Brajkovic Saturday but hopefully he brings that newfound intensity.
6) Brendan Adams: there was one play in the first half where he made the extra pass for a three. That was the kind of ball movement good teams use; and it’s a big improvement over earlier in the year when he was shooting at will. He does seem to be accepting his role now as a defensive specialist who doesn’t shoot much - seemed like for most of the year he was trying to prove that he could go from UConn 6th man to a top offensive option at GW, but him settling into a role is one of the real reasons we’ve improved.
That said, I have to ding him for one play that really stuck out to me. With under 2 minutes to go, Bishop missed a three from the right and the rebound came to the middle. LaSalle had three rebounders in the paint (one who pushed Dean under the basket. Adams was outside the paint on the weak side about 12 feet out, standing on the “Tex” on the court. Bamisile crashed the glass and tipped the rebound to the left, where Adams could have grabbed it when it bounced on the floor. But Adams just stood there watching and reacted very slowly, allowing LaSalle to grab a key rebound. That play felt like LaSalle just wanting it more - they reacted faster and went after the loose ball harder. Ball watching has been a problem for our team all year, and that play stood out to me.
7) Lindo had a bad game. Seemed really out of sorts, not mentally there. I am not sure he played at all in the seconf half. No idea what is going on with him (crazy that he’s still in the top 5 in rebounds and steals per game in the league despite his rocky play lately). Hope he gets it going, settles into his role, and helps us win again.
8) I give credit to JC for a good defensive game plan. We seemed to pressure Nickleberry when he had the ball and dare other guys to beat us. We also had some nice traps when the ball went to the baseline, especially in the first half. Obviously everything looks better when the team is making shots, but in this case I thought the D was sound and we were forcing the right guys to take threes, even though LaSalle shot it well. I still hope he finds a way to teach his wings how to keep their man from penetrating, but it was a solid coaching job defensively yesterday.
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Felt like I was at the Miami Floridian-Kentucky Colonel ABA game from 1974 last night. If this had been a pro game, you're looking at maybe a 130-127 final? Definitely a lot of fun to watch.
The last minute and change of the game alone had:
A sick behind-the-back dribble by James which sent a LaSalle player trying to foul him crashing into press row
40% free throw shooter Hunter Deam calmly sinking a pain
A 4 point play by Brickus, courtesy of a dubious call on Joe, with 5 seconds left
A missed free throw by James, who had hit 11 of his first 13 from the line, with two seconds left, keeping GW's lead at 2 and opening the door for...
Clifton Moore attempting to do his best Carl Elliott impression but back ironing his midcourt attempt for the win
I need to take a breath just typing that.
A few observations:
1) After watching Fordham and LaSalle play in person within a 4 day period, I am comfortable saying that this is the best the tail end of the A10 has looked in its history. There isn't a pushover to be found.
2) We can argue over whether there was contact, or enough contact, or who initiated the contact regarding the late 4 point play, but any ref ought to know in this circumstance to keep their whistle in their pocket unless the foul is blatant. Which this inarguably wasn't.
3) Ironic considering that Joe was nearly knocked unconscious moments earlier and failed to get that call.
4) I don't think I've ever seen a game where more airballs, deflected passes, or attempted steals that resulted in 50/50 loose balls all ended up in the hands of a La Salle player. Completely a fluke.
5) I understand LSF's point about playing defense with one's feet and not one's hands, but please don't take away Joe's hands. He was credited with 4 steals on the night and may have deflected 2-3 additional passes that do not get counted as steals. Amazingly, it's his athleticism, rather than proper technique, that allows for this. If he can learn to always keep his body between his man and the basket, look out.
6) Yes, this was another "what a game" for James. 23 points in the second half. Led his team to the victory. Even if GW loses this game at the buzzer, his performance is still worthy of the highest of accolades. It's when he scores 1/3 of his points in garbage time and his team was never realistically in the game do I feel that heaping praise isn't warranted.
7) Very anxious to see what Hunter Dean can do against the better teams in the conference. I think it was John Giannini who referred to him as the X-factor in the URI game. Hunter is most definitely the X-factor.
8) I understand that Qwanzi hit several big shots early, but does playing Qwanzi 27 minutes while playing Ricky 14 minutes provide GW with its best chance to win? Ricky continues to have problems with turnovers (he had 3 last night) , and perhaps is still feeling some ill effects from his concussion, but in his 14 minutes, he did grab 3 defensive rebounds (which we were in desperate need of), had 2 steals and handed out 2 assists. I am hopeful that JC has not reached the point where he's thinking along the lines of Qwanzi will be here next year, Ricky will not be, so let's get Qwanzi the majority of the minutes. Ricky playing 27 and Qwanzi playing 14 makes more sense to me.
9) Attendance last night was 919. Sunday against Fordham was 1,013. What a shame. Will be interesting to see the number on a Saturday afternoon against a team who was recently nationally ranked.
10) At the very moment that LSF posted about Amir not having played, I said to my friend, "wow, two games in a row and no Amir?" And then, he was checking into the game. Great minds as they say.
11) I'll close with this...I won a bet last night. Not on the game. Instead, I bet my friend, while at the game and not on this site, that The Dude would use the word "Firestorm" at some point in the game thread. And sure enough, he did. You know who you are....pay up!
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Free Quebec wrote:
And Joe Bam was 14-41 in A10 before going an awesome 7-10 today. He looked like an NBA player, basically swishing every shot where he was squares and in rhythm. Would be so great to see him start to shoot consistently because he’s basically unguardable when he’s doing that.
FQ best articulated what I was trying to say earlier. We've seen flashes of that shooting stroke, sometimes reminiscent of Kwame Evans on a really good day like New Mexico, but it was on full display yesterday. If paired with defensive strides and good shot (and dunk attempt) selection, can combine with Joe's awesome athleticism to make not only an entertaining and really special player.
That weird (collegiate) and one call on the Dean defender, as noted by FQ, DMV,etc. above actually showed another side of flopping. It wasn't just merely annoying. Someone could have gotten hurt. The flopper and Hunter, trying to avoid stepping on him, or stepping on him the wrong way--in an area where there were a lot of bodies. Usually, it's just high dramatics, but this could have gotten someone hurt because of where it happened.
It was extraordinary shooting combined with streaks of ugly basketball fundamentals. We won't generally win against teams that can put back all those offensive rebounds.
Wonder if that LaSalle's runs, especially at the end, but also earlier as noted, come because we are who we are, or that the players are tired, especially in the pace of the last game? We can still use what bench we have more effectively.
Obviously, we weren't hurting for 3-point shooting, as often happens. But still don't know why Knapp is never used, especially given his understanding of fundamentals, shooting ability and and defensive intensity, even if he is not as purely athletic as some of the others. He can give good minutes and maybe even a lesser walkon can give 40 seconds or a minute or two as a respite for rotation players. And even Knapp doesn't do well offensively a couple of times after being inserted cold, he should be given the chance to redeem himself that others have with less pressure.
Again, don't understand getting a proven D1 player and burying him on the bench. Can you redshirt a graduate student?
And Amir came in real late in the game, as noted above.
Not personally interested in going back or looking a play by play if it exists somewhere, but it seems like one of the LaSalle runs came when Brayon was sitting on the bench. Brayon's penetration does make our team function better, as demonstrated by several assists and some key baskets.
Also, Amir's role should be clearly settling down the team and utilizing his defensive skills. Given what may be his physical limitations from injury, Amir can still make a vital contribution that way.
Winning feels good, even in a nail-biting last-second manner. We'll see if we are just overperforming against lesser teams, or can hold our own with the better and best teams in the league.
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jf wrote:
Free Quebec wrote:
And Joe Bam was 14-41 in A10 before going an awesome 7-10 today. He looked like an NBA player, basically swishing every shot where he was squares and in rhythm. Would be so great to see him start to shoot consistently because he’s basically unguardable when he’s doing that.
FQ best articulated what I was trying to say earlier. We've seen flashes of that shooting stroke, sometimes reminiscent of Kwame Evans on a really good day like New Mexico, but it was on full display yesterday. If paired with defensive strides and good shot (and dunk attempt) selection, can combine with Joe's awesome athleticism to make not only an entertaining and really special player.
That weird (collegiate) and one call on the Dean defender, as noted by FQ, DMV,etc. above actually showed another side of flopping. It wasn't just merely annoying. Someone could have gotten hurt. The flopper and Hunter, trying to avoid stepping on him, or stepping on him the wrong way--in an area where there were a lot of bodies. Usually, it's just high dramatics, but this could have gotten someone hurt because of where it happened.
It was extraordinary shooting combined with streaks of ugly basketball fundamentals. We won't generally win against teams that can put back all those offensive rebounds.
Wonder if that LaSalle's runs, especially at the end, but also earlier as noted, come because we are who we are, or that the players are tired, especially in the pace of the last game? We can still use what bench we have more effectively.
Obviously, we weren't hurting for 3-point shooting, as often happens. But still don't know why Knapp is never used, especially given his understanding of fundamentals, shooting ability and and defensive intensity, even if he is not as purely athletic as some of the others. He can give good minutes and maybe even a lesser walkon can give 40 seconds or a minute or two as a respite for rotation players. And even Knapp doesn't do well offensively a couple of times after being inserted cold, he should be given the chance to redeem himself that others have with less pressure.
Again, don't understand getting a proven D1 player and burying him on the bench. Can you redshirt a graduate student?
And Amir came in real late in the game, as noted above.
Not personally interested in going back or looking a play by play if it exists somewhere, but it seems like one of the LaSalle runs came when Brayon was sitting on the bench. Brayon's penetration does make our team function better, as demonstrated by several assists and some key baskets.
Also, Amir's role should be clearly settling down the team and utilizing his defensive skills. Given what may be his physical limitations from injury, Amir can still make a vital contribution that way.
Winning feels good, even in a nail-biting last-second manner. We'll see if we are just overperforming against lesser teams, or can hold our own with the better and best teams in the league.
Listen Brian Knapp is a great kid. But if you think GW is winning or losing games because Brian Knapp is or isn't playing then I'm not sure what you are watching. He was brought in as a walk-on for a reason. He is a solid teammate and yes probably can hit the occasional shot when given an opportunity. So can a lot of kids who are riding the bench at many schools. People don't realize how good you have to be to even play D3. They also don't realize how good you have to be to move from the bench to a meaningful role in D1. But the coaches have seen him in probably 75 plus practices. You don't think they have a better idea than you of what he can and cannot do and whether that will help? JC has shown that he will play him at times but it depends completely on matchups and style of play.
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Indeed, there are many times I am not sure what I'm watching. Others here also seem to feel the same way.
But not advocating that Knapp start. Just that he, who has proved he can belong in D1 and others, including Amir and even a walkon or could get a few minutes when we need to try something else on offense, or better defense (Amir) or someone to play under control.
We have a thin pool as we have some scholarships that were left unfulfilled, so we have to use what we have recruited to the team to play this year.
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On a lighter note:
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MG14 wrote:
On a lighter note:
Ironically, our most exciting game of the season.
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Exciting game to watch, too bad I wasn't there. Will be there to see Davidson on Sat.
Loving the hustle, passing and enthusiasm the last few games. Too bad we were inches from losing on a half court heave! Would have been heartbreaking.