Free Quebec wrote:

Virginia embarrassing the committee.

I mean, thank goodness they didn’t put the team who is #1 in the nation in effective FG% in the tourney because watching Virginia fail to score for 13 minutes is way better. We all know a mediocre ACC team is better than an MVC team that gets few chances to impress while winning 30 games in incredible fashion.

Literally the worst basketball performance I've seen all year, including all the terrible GW games in A-10 season. How anyone pays money to watch UVA basketball is beyond me. I guess it's cheaper than a root canal, but just as painful.

Free Quebec wrote:

Virginia embarrassing the committee. 

I mean, thank goodness they didn’t put the team who is #1 in the nation in effective FG% in the tourney because watching Virginia fail to score for 13 minutes is way better.  We all know a mediocre ACC team is better than an MVC team that  gets few chances to impress while winning 30 games in incredible fashion.

Exhibit a right there ^^^

They have come for virtually all of the at large bids already and people notice how cleaned out the NIT was?  Virtually every game was mediocre power fives.   Out of 16 teams I believe UC Irvine was the only legitimately Small program.   Richmond and Cornell was about the next.   NIT a field of a lot of regular season champions that lost in their conference tournament from various smaller leagues.  Now it's Boston college versus a Providence team that best player refused to play and their actual best player out for the season with an injury!

Now if you listen to ESPN or CBS sports there was very little complaining if any about this in fact there was more complaining that the Mountain West got six teams in!  Meanwhile Colorado State waxed UVA, and look at their resume they did it to a lot of power schools and yet here they are in the play-in game??

Boise State tonight also is in the play game? 

Funny thing is, the only non Power 5 they did right by was the Atlantic 10!  Which not only got two teams in but both teams appear to be slightly overseeded!!

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Long Suffering Fan wrote:

As much as it pains me to say this, betting against the A-10 in the postseason seems to have been a wise investment over the past several years.

Yeah, I mean I just don't see either Dayton (injuries) or the Dukes (6th in A10) reaching the second round. I think Dayton was extremely overseeded, especially with the last 3 of their last 6 games { loss @ Mason, @ Loy-Chi, and vs. Duquesne). The Cinderella story is there for Dambrot, but they just don't pass the eye test against real competition. But hey, it's March, I'd love to be and most likely will be embarrassingly incorrect. 

The Dude wrote:

districthoops wrote:

Long Suffering Fan wrote:

As much as it pains me to say this, betting against the A-10 in the postseason seems to have been a wise investment over the past several years.

Yeah, I mean I just don't see either Dayton (injuries) or the Dukes (6th in A10) reaching the second round. I think Dayton was extremely overseeded, especially with the last 3 of their last 6 games { loss @ Mason, @ Loy-Chi, and vs. Duquesne). The Cinderella story is there for Dambrot, but they just don't pass the eye test against real competition. But hey, it's March, I'd love to be and most likely will be embarrassingly incorrect. 

I was wondering how the A10 has done in the Tourney, always hard to find that data.  

The data below is a few years old now, but close to .500 is the answer.  Adding in the recent results, from the top of the head, Hurley's Rhode Island teams won back to back round 1 games, Richmond won in 2022 (2 games?) and I think bagels for the league in 2021 and 2023.  Dayton never got to play as the #1 seed in 2020

    As for this Dayton team, slumped down the stretch losing a bunch of close games but they still have top 25 computer rankings and did very well in the OOC.   If you want to see how unfair the seeding is for ALL teams outside of the Power 5 and it gets more and more ridic as you get to smaller and smaller conferences, why is Duquesne seeded 11 over teams 30 spots ahead of them,  James Madison, McNeese and Grand Canyon?  
Just because of "who did you play"  criteria.  Who did Duquense beat? no one really but played more Quad 1 and 2 games obviously.     

Here's the most recent data I could find showing every conference in the NCAA Tourney:  A10 88-98 as of a few years ago, Pretty darn good for a non Power 5. How many of those games was the A10 the higher seed? I'd think 20-30%

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/2019-02-28/how-every-conference-has-fared-march-madness-1985
 

Dude, if you'd like to know why I consider you to be a troll, it's because you repetitively ask the same questions, day after day, year after year, and when individuals take the time to answer you, you choose to ignore the responses and go back to incredulously wondering about the same things which have already been answered.

I'm willing to state that there is nobody here who thinks that the selection process for the tournament doesn't favor P6 schools or that the selection process is fair to midmajor and smaller schools.  This year saw 8 at large bids to non P6 schools (unless I am forgetting anyone, 5 Mountain West Schools plus Dayton, Florida Atlantic and Gonzaga).  This represents over 20% of the at-large slots.  Should this percentage be much larger than this?  If this number was closer to 40%, would this be palatable to you?  Indiana State is incredibly fun to watch but with a 1-4 record in Q1 games and not an overly impressive OOC schedule, were they really ripped off?  Because of their NET which was largely due to their blowing out inferior opponents?

The Sunday games of Selection Sunday largely have zero impact on seeding.  Nobody feels Duquesne is worthy of an 11 seed; they should be around a 13.  But the committee goes to bed Saturday night saying that the VCU-Duquesne winner gets the 11 and the loser is out.  They do not take the time to build contingencies based on which team wins.  Obviously, this would not have been the case if the teams were very far apart, like if Duquesne met Dayton in the final.  But as long as VCU and Duquesne were "close enough" to one another, there's nothing more to this than the winner gets the 11.  It has nothing to do with whether the committee thinks Duquesne is better than James Madison, McNeese, Samford, or anyone else.

My hope is that you'll start to retain pieces of information like this so that you don't keep asking the same tired things next year.  I am not exactly holding my breath.

Let the Madness begin!

Very early in this game but why would anyone pick against Tom izzo in the tournament in an 8-9 matchup?

Amazing how come March his teams always seem to be able to flip a switch

I thought easy to pick Michigan State here but if I'm wrong you can blame it on my translator!

The Dukes beat 6 seed BYU!!  Dae Dae Grant seals the deal at the line ice water veins. 

47 years in the making 

The A10 is off and running in the NCAA Tourney.    The retiring Dambrot and his Dukes Squad Marching on!!

Good for Duquesne. Their fans needed more relief than us. Positive for A10.

Long Suffering Fan wrote:

Way to go Duquesne!!! Can’t even remember last A10 win in the tourney. Now let’s go Dayton.

Richmond in 2022 beat #5 seed Iowa 

Davidson lost to  Michigan St, 74-73 that year and Dayton was the last team out of the tourney.  

I went back to 2015-2016  A-10 has a  5-15 record (not counting the VCU forfeit), with no appearances beyond the round of 32  FYI...After Richmond beat Iowa, they lost the next game to Providence by 28.  The A-10 has hardly distinguished itself in the tournament in quite some time.   

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Tennessee Colonial wrote:

Dayton looks really sloppy against Nevada

They started strong, and then just fell apart…