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12/15/2020 12:21 am  #1


Fun with KenPom

Out of the top eight ranked conferences in college hoops to date (the six power conferences, AAC at #7, and A10 at #8), there are 101 teams.  We are ranked dead last of those teams in KenPom at 241.  The next worst team is Tulane at 211.

in addition, Coach Christian in his nine year career has never coached a team with a KenPom final ranking better than 200.  He got to 209 twice with Mount St. Mary’s, which coincidentally is currently sitting directly above us with a 240 KenPom ranking.

 

12/15/2020 3:40 pm  #2


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12/15/2020 3:55 pm  #3


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How does the above have a projected record of 5-18?  Mystery to this old man.

 

12/16/2020 10:17 am  #4


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Hi BC, I believe you have to add the percentage of winning for each game remaining on the schedule and divide it by 100.  So in GW’s case that is 397 / 100 = 3.97, or four more wins.  Basically the theory is, even though they are not projected to win any individual game remaining, in reality that is not how it will play out.  There are enough close game opportunities (between 30-70%) where a couple of them will bounce GW’s way.

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12/16/2020 10:24 am  #5


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Thanks Motsach, that makes some sense to me.

 

12/17/2020 2:20 pm  #6


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Still at #240 in KenPom.  Offense is middle of the pack at #202, but defense lagging at #288.  Interesting that Luck (win/loss versus expected is #355 out of 357 teams in Div I.

 

12/17/2020 3:03 pm  #7


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A 5% chance of winning at Richmond. Seems pretty optimistic to me. There is probably a better chance the game does not get played, or even gets played in front of paying customers than GW winning that one at this point...

 

12/17/2020 4:20 pm  #8


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It's come to a 5% chance of winning at Richmond.
Put it on the bulletin board or text it to the players.
Hopefully, we can get our act together and beat this sad prediction.

 

12/17/2020 7:44 pm  #9


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Also interesting, the home game vs Dayton is a 15% chance of a win but the road game is a 7% one. That means playing at home makes a win twice as likely or 8% more likely, Either way, by that reasoning the 9% chance of winning at home vs SLU would be a snowball´s chance in hell if the game were in the midwest...

 

12/17/2020 9:48 pm  #10


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Prior to coming to GW, Coach Christian never won a game against a top-100 KenPom school.  He was 0-30 combined at MSM and Siena.  Here at GW, he is 2-9, all last year, the two wins being the 4-OT game vs #70 Davidson and a win at #95 Duquesne.

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12/23/2020 3:10 pm  #11


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BM wrote:

Interesting that Luck (win/loss versus expected is #355 out of 357 teams in Div I.

Dropped one position to #356 after the Charlotte game. 
 

 

12/23/2020 4:44 pm  #12


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BM is onto something interesting posting about the KenPom Luck metric.  My understanding is it not actually a measure of luck (losing out on 50/50 balls, failing to convert two chances to win on the last possession with the ball in your hands, etc).  It is actually a measurement of the performance of each team relative to his statistical projections (i.e. expectations).  And by that measure, we are the next to worst team in Division I in performance vs projected performance.  The only team worse than us (and by far) is 1-5 Kentucky, whose season is also an absolute dumpster fire.  Also interestingly, #1 in the nation in this measurement is 3-1 Navy, who I guess was supposed to be absolutely terrible but beat us and just recently beat Georgetown on the road.  So if you ever wanted to debate performance vs expectations, here is the statistical source to help drive that discussion.  We are officially suffering through (and supporting) one of the most disappointing programs in the country out of 357 teams!

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12/23/2020 6:03 pm  #13


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Motsach wrote:

Prior to coming to GW, Coach Christian never won a game against a top-100 KenPom school.  He was 0-30 combined at MSM and Siena.  Here at GW, he is 2-9, all last year, the two wins being the 4-OT game vs #70 Davidson and a win at #95 Duquesne.

Damn. Numbers don't lie.

 

12/26/2020 9:00 pm  #14


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Worst A-10 Losses in OOC.

152 Drexel (SJU)
160 Saint Peter’s (La Salle)
171 Northeastern (UMass)
172 Charlotte (GW, Davidson)
184 Navy (GW)
185 UMBC (GW)
200 Bryant (UMass)
208 Army (La Salle)
231 Norfolk St (Mason)
259 Delaware (GW)
296 William & Mary (GW)
337 Hampton (GW)

 

12/26/2020 9:55 pm  #15


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A proud moment.
Nothing wrong at all.

 

12/27/2020 9:21 pm  #16


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Let’s hope they turn it around soon, otherwise we will be having the debate over whether they are the worst team in GW men’s bball history.  Right now I’ve got them at #3, behind the 1-27 team and MoJo’s last team two years ago.

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