I agree with you Mayhem on ML's starting 5. I think those 5 are up there with Jarvis and Hobbs starting 5. Just think if ML had more than 5 years of bringing in that kind of talent. I didn't appreciate it at the time but do now after these last 5 years. I can only hope we can someday get back to those days.

All ML Mojo:
PG J. Roland
Wing Yuta
Wing Steeves
PF Cavanaugh
C Collin Smith

Non ML Mojo
G Nolan
G Potter
G Mazzulla
F Offurum
F Battle

GW0509, please don't mistake what I'm about to say as a suggestion that I was a fan of DJ William's game.  However, DJ was simply a more talented player than Bo.  Bo was an electrifying dunker and as you say, an energy player.  But his other skills were very limited, certainly when compared to DJ's.  I will say that Bo is higher in my pecking order than Mezzie.

Mentz, I broke my own rule.  Both Paar and Battle were recruited by MoJo but neither actually played for him.  So by my definition, they would belong on a JC team and not a MoJo team.  That means Battle has to come off my first team and while I'd like to put Kevin Marfo there in light of what he would go on to do, I'm stuck putting DJ on that team as well.  On the other team, Battle and Paar come off and I'll play three guards with Maceo and Bo becomes my undersized center.

Mentz, my general rule is that the coach who a player played for his first year at GW is whose team that player belongs to.  So using that rule, I'd have to nix Roland, Yuta and Tyler from any MoJo team since each played for ML.  
 

Tale of two Lonergans. First couple of years, losing a lot but acquiring big talent

Next few years, winning with that talent but not acquiring replacement talent.

Mojo was never really given a fair chance, but did bring in some good talent, and we're better off making the change to JC, but Mojo's future is bright.

 

This was a fun thread. I'd give JC one more off-season given covid and all (or at least till end of this one to see what we have) before I could try my hand at the one for him. Agree with the ML MJ ones tho I'd also say Tony Taylor as back up pg just for Herve

FQ, am certainly not advocating that DJ Williams was good.  I'd have picked JNJ ahead of him in a second but he wasn't even close to being eligible to make a MoJo team.  He not only played solely for JC but was recruited to GW by JC as well.

GW0509, I hear you as well.  Aside from the opinion that I believe DJ was a better player than Bo, I would want to pick Bo ahead of DJ for every other conceivable reason.  Athleticism, attitude, energy...all clearly favored Bo.

porter71 wrote:

This game shows up wrong Dude's nonsense on ML getting an D for recruiting after his initial class really is.  You can compare the two sets of players side by side.  Which team would you rather have?  MoJos 3 years, or ML's last 3

MoJo
Armel Potter
Terry Nolan Jr.
DJ Williams / Bo Ziegler
Jameson Battle
Chase Parr

ML
PG.  Paul Jorgensen (I could swap in Jaren Sina)
SG:  Jair Bolden (I could swap in Jordan Roland)
SF:  Yuta Wantanabe
PF:  Collin Smith
C:  Arnaldo Toro (I could swap in Kevin Marfo)

ML's last 3 through the NIT Championship?  We get to have Tyler Cavanaugh and Mo Creek on that team.  Last 3 including the Collin Smith class?  We still have Tyler on that team. 

Gwmayhem wrote:

FQ, am certainly not advocating that DJ Williams was good.  I'd have picked JNJ ahead of him in a second but he wasn't even close to being eligible to make a MoJo team.  He not only played solely for JC but was recruited to GW by JC as well.

GW0509, I hear you as well.  Aside from the opinion that I believe DJ was a better player than Bo, I would want to pick Bo ahead of DJ for every other conceivable reason.  Athleticism, attitude, energy...all clearly favored Bo.

Right.  I don’t know why I keep forgetting he was a JC recruit, not a mojo one. 

If there’s not a 5th mojo recruit better than DJ Williams, that’s…. just… awful. 


I guess Bo Ziegler, which is sad.  Or Mazzula or Mezzie, who were not good players either. 

I think Jameson Battle is the only Mojo recruit who could crack JC’s top 5 and he’s only had two years (one of which we haven’t even seen yet). Same for Penders’ three years.   

I don’t think any of MoJo’s recruits other than Battle could even crack Keuster’s team (Led by Dirkk Surles and Sonni Holland).

Pay the troll toll to get in the boys soul. That's an Always Sunny reference for anyone who knows. Stop feeding the troll. That 2016-17 class could've gone NCAA. It's not a slight to MOJO at all because I have nothing but love for the guy I've known him for years. He was given a bad hand on the worst day. Thank Tanya and Paddy for that. I don't care where they landed. Smith and them had crazy upside.