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11/11/2021 9:10 pm  #121


Re: GW vs Maryland Game Thread

Joe B windmill dunk on the ESPN home page.

 

11/11/2021 9:39 pm  #122


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We move up to #199 in KenPom with the loss, one spot ahead of future opponent Cal State Fullerton

 

11/11/2021 9:49 pm  #123


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A few quick observations after returning home from the game:

1) UMD did not impress me. They had a very simple game plan but did not have many real scoring threats. Their big lived entirely off of put-backs and FTs.

2) Took UMD getting 17 offensive boards, a late clutch 3 by Fatts, and 21 MORE FT attempts than us to win by 7.

3) Ricky Lindo is going to be on an all-conference team. Kid does it all. Can score inside and out, blocks shots, rebounds the ball well, and has an extremely high motor.

4) I think our guards (Bishop, Adams, Bamasile) can match up with most teams in the conference if not be better than most. All 3 guys can put the ball in the hoop in a variety of ways. Loved Bamasile playing with the crowd. Was a little annoyed by it at first, but when you have a game like that you can do what you want. Just hoping it doesn't happen every single game.

5) We have a real issue at the 5 spot. Neither Brown nor Dean can provide much of anything offensively and defensively they've had issues. Was hoping Brown would make the sophomore leap like Larsen did but it doesn't seem like that's happening. If we had a better 5 who could simply rebound the ball and not get destroyed when his man is posting him up we likely would've won tonight's game. It's going to be an issue all year long.

6) Frustrating couple of possessions where we had the ball on a fast break and our guy dribbled into 3 defenders. Happened a couple of times and at least once when the game was very close late in the game. Need to learn to pull it out there.

All in all, I'm very pleased with tonight's game. The guys should be pretty proud of the way they hung in there.

 

11/11/2021 9:52 pm  #124


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Just got back from College Park with my nephew, who is a Terps fan. Not much of a crowd, but we had a lot of fun. Could have been a very exciting ending if Adams hit that three! This team is a lot of fun to watch and I don’t think there’s any way we finish 13th in the A10 this year.

 

11/11/2021 10:14 pm  #125


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Got back from the game. Was great to see some live GW basketball after a year and a half away, and against a regional rival like MD. I figured MD would dominate us down low because they outsized us at every position, but our defense down low was really good despite the difference. Bishop and Lindo were great. The team really hustled. We also finished a lot of our really difficult shots down low. Crappier players miss more of those shots.

Always sucks when you're in reach of an upset and the better team wakes up at halftime, but we had a lot to be proud of today.  The A-10 is going to have a much improved GW to deal with.

 

11/11/2021 10:46 pm  #126


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Turgeon with the clown quote of the night:

Turgeon on George Washington: "I tried to explain to our guys that everybody on their team thinks they should be wearing a Maryland uniform. And they competed. They played their tails off. They were really good. They were inspired."

https://twitter.com/emilygiam/status/1458983382348615689?s=21

 

11/11/2021 10:58 pm  #127


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It was an impressive performance by our guys; on a night when JB didn't score a point until 10 minutes left-- and then reeled off 11 quick ones-- we were in the game until the last 30 seconds. We are weak at the 5 right now and we have no scoring outside of our Fab 4. However, the idea we are in the bottom 4 of the A-10 is just plain wrong.

 

11/11/2021 11:13 pm  #128


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Free Quebec wrote:

Skittles wrote:

MD 85 GW 58. Just being realistic

Realistically, you don’t know anything about basketball. Lol.

Big words after a game is over. When the team is 10 losses deep by December will you still have this energy? Thought not. This team is badly coached and undisciplined and one squeak past a shitty NEC team and close loss to a TURGEON coached MD team that is still trying out new plays for funsies doesn't prove a point. And honestly this school deserves it for how they've handled this program so you'll get no sympathy from me

 

11/11/2021 11:14 pm  #129


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GW0509 wrote:

Turgeon with the clown quote of the night:

Turgeon on George Washington: "I tried to explain to our guys that everybody on their team thinks they should be wearing a Maryland uniform. And they competed. They played their tails off. They were really good. They were inspired."

https://twitter.com/emilygiam/status/1458983382348615689?s=21

Turdgeon is responsible for that embarrassing Sweet 16 banner they had up in the rafters. One since Gary.

 

11/11/2021 11:24 pm  #130


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Skittles wrote:

Free Quebec wrote:

Skittles wrote:

MD 85 GW 58. Just being realistic

Realistically, you don’t know anything about basketball. Lol.

Big words after a game is over. When the team is 10 losses deep by December will you still have this energy? Thought not. This team is badly coached and undisciplined and one squeak past a shitty NEC team and close loss to a TURGEON coached MD team that is still trying out new plays for funsies doesn't prove a point. And honestly this school deserves it for how they've handled this program so you'll get no sympathy from me

Thanks for showing your true colors.  I know you are a friend or relative of Lonergan, who hangs out here to defend him/trash the program for what they did to him, but at least you’ve admitted that you are not rooting for GW basketball to succeed. 

I posted before the game questioning your “realistic” take.  You were wrong. Just be a man/woman and admit it.

And if we aren’t “10 losses deep by December,” maybe you’ll just leave us alone?

 

11/11/2021 11:30 pm  #131


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GW0509 wrote:

Turgeon with the clown quote of the night:

Turgeon on George Washington: "I tried to explain to our guys that everybody on their team thinks they should be wearing a Maryland uniform. And they competed. They played their tails off. They were really good. They were inspired."

https://twitter.com/emilygiam/status/1458983382348615689?s=21

That really is a clown quote. Ricky Lindo did wear the uniform and he would be staring there.  In fact, I think our new core 4 would probably all start for them over Hakim Hart. 

Turgeon’s quote is kind of a “bless their heart” put down, like we just played hard because we were inspired, rather than recognizing that we have some real talent.  He probably thought he would be getting last year’s GW when he scheduled it, and is slow to realize what was happening out there today.

 

11/12/2021 12:30 am  #132


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The influx of talent is really eye opening.  Lindo, Basimile, Bishop, Adams.  (not to forget about Ira Lee)

Such an improved athletic, fun to watch collection of players.  

The arrow is clearly pointing north.  

     Thread Starter
 

11/12/2021 7:15 am  #133


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Difference in the game was FTs, OReb%, and shots at the rim.  Last two sort of go hand in hand.


 

11/12/2021 7:35 am  #134


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Much better performance than I expected. Bamisile appears to be the real deal. Don't understand what is going on with Bishop. Literally not there until the end of the game when he caught fire. Also can't figure Hunter Dean out. Had a great exhibition game and then has completely disappeared. Rebounding is going to be a problem. That said, there is a lot of talent on this team and I just hope that Christian will improve down the stretch in terms of being more hands on.

 

11/12/2021 8:52 am  #135


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I echo Moneybox thoughts. Bishop gives and he takes. With 20 seconds left in the first half and in possession of the ball, GW is up by 3. A chance to maintain this or go up by 5, instead Bishop takes a rushed shot, UMD comes down for an emphatic dunk to close the gap to one. Not a  smart play. Early, in the second half , Bishop is not aware of a pass by Lindos  and another turnover occurs. JC calls him over. The team played hard with great intensity. A win was possible. GW needs smarter point guard play.

 

11/12/2021 9:36 am  #136


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If we're going to gripe about unimpressive victories, then it's only fair that we acknowledge a great loss and praise the team accordingly.  The team looked very confident, something that's hard to do when you're coming off a win that nearly catastrophically turned into a loss and you then have to play a road game against a top 25 team.  We will always be able to identify a few plays like the jumper with 8 seconds left in the first half that led to a Terp dunk which led to Terp momentum to start the second half that were ill advised or boneheaded.  Teams at every level know to hold the ball for the last shot in that situation.  But, we can't look at a handful of plays and theorize that these are the reasons why GW lost.

GW will lose games to any team that takes advantage of our weak defense in the paint and has the personnel to effectively exploit this. Turgeon's team took over 30% of its attempts from 3 which played directly into our hand and explains why the game was as close as it was.  Yet, they scored enough from inside the paint, often without much resistance.  Both Noel and Hunter are limited defensively.  (And please don't wonder where the Hunter Dean who dominated Hood College went to, unless we play another team without any distinguishable size.)  They try hard, they can make plays here and there, but by and large, each will likely be schooled against more talented big men.  Again, no Ira Lee translates to a big problem.

Nevertheless, the team played with a lot of heart and energy.  If you didn't like Joey B pandering to the Smith Center crowd, how do you like him now?  That guy puts a target on his back and screams "Let's Go."  Terp fans may have had the last laugh but that was to be expected.  Theatrics aside, I'm happy to go to battle with guys like Joe Bamisile.

As for James, it was another 30 frustrating minutes though it was great to see him show up in a big way down the stretch.  While Brayon shows promise, it's clear that James will continue to serve as this team's quarterback for at least a while longer.  Hopefully, he is officially out of the funk that began the season.

Final point...it's easy to see how the team competed last night and conclude that the team will be fine throughout the rest of their OOC season.  It should be noted that sports rarely works exactly the way you think it might.  (Introducing the Tennessee Titans, winners of 5 straight games including victories over the Bills, Colts, Chiefs and Rams.  Their last loss...to the NY Jets.)   Again, this is two nights and one game after nearly losing to St. Francis, PA.  While GW might be favored in the rest of its OOC games (doubtful, but perhaps a possibility after last night), one shouldn't be too surprised if the team plays flat a handful.  Even their next game, 48 hours or so on the west coast from this draining loss, does not represent "a great spot" for the team.

 

11/12/2021 10:08 am  #137


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All good points Mayhem!

Re: Dean, I was harsh on him after the St. Francis game but I hold to my sentiment. I thought he actually played really smart basketball during this game and made some really solid plays but against the likes of Wahab and Reece, he is going to get bodied all day.

At some point - i guess - we'll just stop yammering about the issue at the 5 since i am not sure there is much to do about it but i think we are going to see starting centers average ~ 17.5 pts, 16 reb (The current average) against us all season long. And that is very hard to overcome.

I am also hoping (and thinking) this Bishop just needed to get a couple through the net to brush the offseason funk off. I'm excited about what this team does with everyone firing on all cylinders. Games where we get hot, we will be very very dangerous against any opponent regardless of ranking. 

Last point - anyone who doesnt like what Joe is doing on the court hates fun. Drawing strength and energy from his own crowd is great. Drawing strength and energy from the jeers and boos of the opposing crowd, even better. Yeah he is a performer - but he's earning the right to be with his stats. I love a guy who loves to ball and to do it on the big stage. He is easily a top 3 most fun player i have had the pleasure to watch since i started following the team (not as long as some of y'all for sure, but over a decade)

 

 

11/12/2021 10:36 am  #138


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Cutis wrote:

I echo Moneybox thoughts. Bishop gives and he takes. With 20 seconds left in the first half and in possession of the ball, GW is up by 3. A chance to maintain this or go up by 5, instead Bishop takes a rushed shot, UMD comes down for an emphatic dunk to close the gap to one. Not a  smart play. Early, in the second half , Bishop is not aware of a pass by Lindos  and another turnover occurs. JC calls him over. The team played hard with great intensity. A win was possible. GW needs smarter point guard play.

Bishop didn’t take the shot.  It was Bamisile.  Criticize him for that, not James.

I’m glad you mentioned that moment where he didn’t see the pass and JC called him over.  That was such a great coaching moment.  You could tell Bishop was rattled, between the poor shooting and not seeing that pass, but JC really calmed him down. Put his hands on shoulders and gave him a hug.  I’d like to think that support, rather than ripping the kid as most of our coaches would have done over the years, is part of what helped James settle down enough to get back to his game down the stretch.

 

11/12/2021 10:54 am  #139


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I thought the team played great last night.  I have a few random thoughts in no particular order. 

If someone outside of Ricky Lindo could make a 3, we would have won that game.  I though the team took a lot of good shots that just didn't fall.

I thought Dean and Brown played as well as they could against what was going to be a really tough matchup.  It would be really nice to have one more experienced big body.

Basimile is going to be a star here, though he went really silent in the second half.  I'm not sure if UMD was denying him, or if we naturally moved away from him, but I would have loved for him to be more involved.

I'm surprised we didn't see more Amir Harris.  I looked at the box score, and saw he only got 7 minutes.

This team came out slow to start the second half...again.  It happened vs. St. Francis, and seemed to happen all the time last season.  I'm not sure what it is, but the team is always going to struggle to win game if they give up a run at the start of every half. 

 

11/12/2021 11:19 am  #140


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Skittles wrote:

Free Quebec wrote:

Skittles wrote:

MD 85 GW 58. Just being realistic

Realistically, you don’t know anything about basketball. Lol.

Big words after a game is over. When the team is 10 losses deep by December will you still have this energy? Thought not. This team is badly coached and undisciplined and one squeak past a shitty NEC team and close loss to a TURGEON coached MD team that is still trying out new plays for funsies doesn't prove a point. And honestly this school deserves it for how they've handled this program so you'll get no sympathy from me

Don't need sympathy but how about a little realism - 10 losses by December? First of all that is absurd if you look at our schedule. Second of all, if we have 10 losses by December, Maryland is going to be the worst team in the Big 10. That is also absurd. You can be angry at the way GW handled the ML situation but making clown basketball posts here isn't going to rectify that.

 

 

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