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3/22/2022 4:11 pm  #221


Re: GW Next Head Coach Candidates Thread

GW73 wrote:

GWRising wrote:

squid wrote:


What do you suggest to fix this?
 

 Simple ... 5-point plan

1. Charter flights so student athletes can return to class quickly and miss less class.(like the rest of the A-10)
2. Academic standards commensurate with the rest of the A-10 (like we used to have)
3. More money for assistants (salaries are below market for other A-10 schools)
4. Practice Facility - start construction ASAP
5. Revamping of Sports Information - when was the last time you saw GW regularly covered in local media? Lack of exposure hurts the program significantly both in terms of attendance and visibility with recruits.

Now this won't be cheap. Charter flights are $35,000 or more a pop. The practice facility will be millions. You need proabaly another $250,000 annually for assistants. 

Sounds great. All for it. Although, let's not get carried away with your academic standards point. There is evidence that academic standards weren't all that high in recent years.
 

 What evidence that academic standards weren't all that high? Did somebody become ineligible?

 

3/22/2022 4:15 pm  #222


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GW73 wrote:

GWRising wrote:

At this point we should all repeat the following everyday ...

"It is easier for GW to sell hope to their donors and fan base than to spend money while digging in and working with what they have to develop a winning program. As we have seen they wind up in the same spot in a few years only to do the same thing all over again. The donors and fan base just don't realize they are being played."

You can't have it both ways. We get that you were and are a defender of JC. That's fine. We appreciate that. We all would have liked to see him win at GW. But you can't now place the blame on the lack of funding at GW for JC's losing.(BTW -- I am no fan of how the GW administration has failed to support sports.)  Plenty of knowledgeable  basketball people will tell you that it is not impossible to win at GW. And there's even a fairly recent example of someone who won at GW -- Mike Lonergan. It won't be easy for new coach. But we have to believe it can be done.

These are issues that have plagued GW for years , well before JC arrived. But the gap is widening not narrowing making it harder and harder. As I mentioned, some of these things were to be addressed during JC's tenure but never were. I only refer this to JC because he was the last coach and he went into the job with eyes wide open about the deficiencies and thought there was a plan to address them. Mike Lonergan last won in 2015-16. That is a long time ago in basketball terms and as we all know much has happened since.

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3/22/2022 4:18 pm  #223


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There is a small group of fans who continue to step up donation wise. The baseball field has most of the names of people who contributed. The Colonial Club although the attendance dropped dramatically this year still has people who donate. I don’t think the current administration really cares about the fan base. The AD needs to make the right hire ASAP or we are looking at a John Kuester year. I’m pretty confident the hire will be a mediocre one.

 

3/22/2022 4:23 pm  #224


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GWRising, that's a well-thought out list.  My question, which is not a snarky one, is who should be paying for these items?  And, if it's a combination of the school dipping into an endowment or elsewhere, a capital/fundraising campaign, and/or increasing regular annual donations, to what extent should the school be footing the bill as opposed to alum and other possible donors?

 

3/22/2022 4:23 pm  #225


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2twooed wrote:

There is a small group of fans who continue to step up donation wise. The baseball field has most of the names of people who contributed. The Colonial Club although the attendance dropped dramatically this year still has people who donate. I don’t think the current administration really cares about the fan base. The AD needs to make the right hire ASAP or we are looking at a John Kuester year. I’m pretty confident the hire will be a mediocre one.

Who is the right hire?

 

3/22/2022 4:28 pm  #226


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I would like to see Wojo, Williford, maybe Pegues. I’m not high on Caputo, the Delaware coach, or Danny Manning.

 

3/22/2022 4:36 pm  #227


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Gwmayhem wrote:

GWRising, that's a well-thought out list.  My question, which is not a snarky one, is who should be paying for these items?  And, if it's a combination of the school dipping into an endowment or elsewhere, a capital/fundraising campaign, and/or increasing regular annual donations, to what extent should the school be footing the bill as opposed to alum and other possible donors?

 The University at-large has this money should they so desire to spend it.. That has never been an issue. We have plenty of money when we seem to want to have it - spending millions to buy out or settle with former coaches and administrators. But GW claims poverty when GW doesn't want to spend it - like the need to cut 7 sports.. And guess what? If you make these capital investments in the basketball program, the performance will improve, you will raise more donations and sell more tickets - might even get some NCAA money by participating in the tournament. GW either needs to make these investments or drop down to a league commensurate with what they are willing to spend.

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3/22/2022 4:48 pm  #228


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Not sure if anyone else heard Coach K's podcast last night but he talked about St. Peters and what this run will do for a school.  I will paraphrase in Coach K's voice:

" I can't begin to tell you what a run like this does for a school that's not well known.  St. Peters will receive tens if not a hundred or more million dollars worth of publicity.  This is what sports can do for a university.  Not only does it show up in raising school spirit, but it also generates so much more.  Applications increase, the quality of professors rises.  In 2010, we defeated Butler to win the national title.  I told Brad Stevens back then, who is a good friend today, that not only was his life about to change but your school's life is also about to change too." 

 

3/22/2022 7:02 pm  #229


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        [color=inherit]Samurai Hoops[/color][/url] [url=https://twitter.com/samurai_hoops]@samurai_hoops·22s While Caputo remains the favorite at Samurai Sportsbook…we’ve had some sharp money come in on Becker here at The Dojo

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     [color=inherit]Samurai Hoops[/color] @samurai_hoops· =inherit3m
The other name emerging at GW… John Becker Samurai sources in DC indicating to The Dojo we should be taking Becker “seriously” here… @GWcolonialhoops

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3/22/2022 7:13 pm  #230


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2twooed wrote:

I would like to see Wojo, Williford, maybe Pegues. I’m not high on Caputo, the Delaware coach, or Danny Manning.

Personally I have no way to evaluate assistants. 

Can you elaborate on why you would like those three, but not Caputo (I don’t think you need to expand on why not Manning or Inglesby since they have established track records)?  And how you would feel about Becker?

 

3/22/2022 7:17 pm  #231


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Yes, more than six days have passed since JC was let go. So by Vogel terms this is a very long search period. But clearly the University wants to get this right, and there is a good possibility that the Chosen Candidate is still busy with a team that is still playing (sigh, we all wish that was us). I really don´t see why we are getting our panties in a bunch over rumours on Twatter. An annoucement will be made by early April at the latest, as per Vogel´s own statements, so let´s see where events take us. Personally, I´d like to see a really outside-the-box pick with a young coach who can draw media attention (my choice for that is Lindsey Harding, but Twatter rumours do not seem to be giving me any reason to think I am within 100 miles of the real candidate).
Do we get what we want or not? That remains to be seen, but until then I hear cherry blossoms are in full bloom, the Beaujelais Nuveaux are about to hit the market and (at least where I am) the weather is nice. So go out and do something more productive with your time than speculate about things we have no knowledge of (dittoheads on the cable news channels do enough of that already).

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3/22/2022 7:56 pm  #232


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Lmao whoever said turgeon needs to discuss with Maryland fans.

John Becker would be a great hire but doubt he wants to go due to his close ties to ML.

The problems plaguing this program go beyond money. They tore down their own success publicly. And while some on here swear that deadspin article was irrelevant, you should know it got over a million views and I know a ton of people in the cbb world read it and wouldn't touch gw after

 

3/22/2022 7:57 pm  #233


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Free Quebec wrote:

2twooed wrote:

I would like to see Wojo, Williford, maybe Pegues. I’m not high on Caputo, the Delaware coach, or Danny Manning.

Personally I have no way to evaluate assistants. 

Can you elaborate on why you would like those three, but not Caputo (I don’t think you need to expand on why not Manning or Inglesby since they have established track records)?  And how you would feel about Becker?

Becker would be an excellent choice. Mason did not hire Caputo twice. I’d prefer someone who’s been a head before with some success. Back to Caputo I’d prefer a candidate that gets the job on his merits not his relationship to Diaz.

 

3/22/2022 7:58 pm  #234


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Looking through this thread and the links posted, it appears as if GW will hire Caputo or Jason Williford, Virginia's season just ended moments ago(St. Bonaventure advances to the NIT Final 4) and Miami plays in the Sweet 16 in a couple days, so we'll probably have to wait until Miami's season ends before a hire is announced, unless GW goes with Williford. I recall Williford being a solid player for Virginia in the early to mid 90's. 

The Samari Hoops twitter feed allows you to reply(unlike @coaching changes) and they respond to some questions. If you guys have a twitter account you may be able to get answers to what is going on. 

 

3/22/2022 8:17 pm  #235


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2twooed wrote:

Free Quebec wrote:

2twooed wrote:

I would like to see Wojo, Williford, maybe Pegues. I’m not high on Caputo, the Delaware coach, or Danny Manning.

Personally I have no way to evaluate assistants. 

Can you elaborate on why you would like those three, but not Caputo (I don’t think you need to expand on why not Manning or Inglesby since they have established track records)?  And how you would feel about Becker?

Becker would be an excellent choice. Mason did not hire Caputo twice. I’d prefer someone who’s been a head before with some success. Back to Caputo I’d prefer a candidate that gets the job on his merits not his relationship to Diaz.

Thanks.  Seems pretty clear that insiders (assuming there’s not just one using multiple names) feel like Diaz having a prior relationship disqualifies Caputo.  As I’ve said before, I really don’t care as long as he turns out to be the right guy.


I do think head coaching experience is nice, but it’s no guarantee at all of future success - as JC, Dave Paulsen, and many others can attest.  Lack of head coaching experience also can be fine (like Karl Hobbs and apparently Kyle Neptune at Fordham).   

Whoever it is I will back (though Danny Manning would be really hard to feel any hope, as would some others with uninspiring results like Inglesby.   We hire one of them and I’ll do my best to believe, but I will literally be expecting it to go bad from day 1).

 

3/22/2022 10:08 pm  #236


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The Becker stuff is interesting, as he wouldn't be putting it out there. And of course, seemed highly unlikely, though it would be a good choice.
However, hadn't heard of Samurai Hoops. Are they a big thing?

 

3/23/2022 5:27 am  #237


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Since his name is being mentioned, here is the UVA bio on Williford.

 

3/23/2022 8:50 am  #238


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Though I'd normally say getting Becker would be very tough at this point, but the scandal at UVM that I posted before could a) push him away from staying, b) pull him to GW, especially now that a few plum positions have been filled.  GW would obviously have to do an investigation to make sure that his involvement with the scandal was minimal.

 

3/23/2022 10:46 am  #239


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Free Quebec wrote:

2twooed wrote:

Free Quebec wrote:


Personally I have no way to evaluate assistants.

Can you elaborate on why you would like those three, but not Caputo (I don’t think you need to expand on why not Manning or Inglesby since they have established track records)? And how you would feel about Becker?

Becker would be an excellent choice. Mason did not hire Caputo twice. I’d prefer someone who’s been a head before with some success. Back to Caputo I’d prefer a candidate that gets the job on his merits not his relationship to Diaz.

Thanks. Seems pretty clear that insiders (assuming there’s not just one using multiple names) feel like Diaz having a prior relationship disqualifies Caputo. As I’ve said before, I really don’t care as long as he turns out to be the right guy.


I do think head coaching experience is nice, but it’s no guarantee at all of future success - as JC, Dave Paulsen, and many others can attest. Lack of head coaching experience also can be fine (like Karl Hobbs and apparently Kyle Neptune at Fordham).

Whoever it is I will back (though Danny Manning would be really hard to feel any hope, as would some others with uninspiring results like Inglesby. We hire one of them and I’ll do my best to believe, but I will literally be expecting it to go bad from day 1).

No, no, no. It's not the prior relationship that is of concern. It's the concern that the previous guy was likely undermined to enable the coaching position to become available so that the guy with the prior relationship could be hired. 

 

3/23/2022 11:04 am  #240


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GWRising wrote:

Free Quebec wrote:

2twooed wrote:


Becker would be an excellent choice. Mason did not hire Caputo twice. I’d prefer someone who’s been a head before with some success. Back to Caputo I’d prefer a candidate that gets the job on his merits not his relationship to Diaz.

Thanks. Seems pretty clear that insiders (assuming there’s not just one using multiple names) feel like Diaz having a prior relationship disqualifies Caputo. As I’ve said before, I really don’t care as long as he turns out to be the right guy.


I do think head coaching experience is nice, but it’s no guarantee at all of future success - as JC, Dave Paulsen, and many others can attest. Lack of head coaching experience also can be fine (like Karl Hobbs and apparently Kyle Neptune at Fordham).

Whoever it is I will back (though Danny Manning would be really hard to feel any hope, as would some others with uninspiring results like Inglesby. We hire one of them and I’ll do my best to believe, but I will literally be expecting it to go bad from day 1).

No, no, no. It's not the prior relationship that is of concern. It's the concern that the previous guy was likely undermined to enable the coaching position to become available so that the guy with the prior relationship could be hired. 

What I think I've heard you say is that JC was basically promised that he'd be able to work with more money/benefits than previous coaches that would allow the program to grow. Then he didn't get them.Your belief is that these benefits weren't given solely so that JC would fail and a new coach could be hired. If true, that would be problematic (wondering how much the pandemic also played into changed costs). Regardless, JC and his teams simply didn't perform well. Could they have performed better with more money/benefits? Maybe. I'm not sure what other players would have come/would have transferred/etc. I'm not sure it would have helped JC on gameday. 

I hope the new coach gets more money/benefits. I'll always root for the team.

 

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