GW0509 wrote:

2twooed wrote:

If ML wanted to coach again he would.

If that's the case (and I have no reason to doubt your knowledge of his thinking), then what is the point of continually tweeting about the situation?  Patsos was fired by Siena for the same things Mike was alleged to do but he doesn't tweet about Siena.  Gregg Marshall was fired for worse allegations, and he doesn't tweet about Wichita State. It's been 8 years, and outside of the Deadspin article the college basketball world doesn't seem too sympathetic to Mike's case.

I'm not saying Mike can't feel wronged and continue to vent to his family and friends, but I just can't help but think there's a better PR strategy if the goal was to get back into coaching.

BINGO...that guy is ...in need of an intervention at this point

 

GW0509 wrote:

Gwmayhem wrote:

It was as wrong as wrong can be and I'm sure that ML would not mind GW publicly admitting its mistake.

In the words of Don Draper: "That's what the money's for"

When ML decided (rightly imo) to take the settlement $, it foreclosed the chance of the University making any further statements on the matter. That's literally the calculation for why the school agreed to a settlement in the first place.

Whatever extra vindication he's looking for isn't coming or has already come in the form of the Deadspin article. 
 

and 8.5 years later that minor settlement $ is all gone so I hope he's got some other plan with such a large family

More so, GW as a program has long since moved on, high time to do so, its been nearly a decade.   If ML was such an innocent in this situation he would have been back in the sport but we all know that ain't happening


 

Keith, what's hard about this?  If you were ML and your boss was acting in a completely inappropriate manner towards your players, the players you recruited and whose families you assured their sons would be safe, are you saying you'd be fine with this?

GW0509, the school did not agree to a settlement, it initiated one.  Another explanation is that the school wanted to avoid the risk of losing substantially more money in a wrongful termination suit, a suit that would have commenced had there not been a settlement offer.  I understand your point (and appreciate the Don Draper shout-out.).  At the same time, I would add that not having a legal obligation to offer vindication does not make this the right course of action.  If the school can now conclude that ML was driven to whatever wrongdoing he was guilty of, publicly acknowledging this would go a long way towards making things right (to the extent this is possible).  I do agree that one should not hold their breath waiting for this to happen.

  This is a very interesting debate, especially given where we are--and this blowing up the program
over wrong accusations, and a hush money cover-up of what really happened. It's quite a window into human behavior and frankly, GW and other colleges trying to be on the correct bandwagon at the expense of dealing with wrongful things that could have put the university in a terrible liability position if widely known.
     And also because Patsos, who was fired for similar allegations and is literally Lonergan's best friend, is our color man and co-host of our TV show. That is great GW hypocrisy.
  ML has earned his bitterness. After turning down triple his salary and a higher level job(s), his career
was cut down in its prime with radioactive allegations that made him essentially unemployable.
   Meanwhile, GW paid him around $3 million, seemingly to avoid any public disclosure of the bizarre situation. I am quite confident of that figure of around $3 million.
    Personally, I don't see a grey area. I see right and wrong--and a man with a family losing his livelihood
to a one-sided (and demonstrably wrong in numerous areas) story. In fact, recall there may be more which
hasn't been reported.
   This is important to talk about, from a moral and basketball standpoint.
The bad karma still haunts us. There probably won't be a formal apology (above the $3 million reasons) to ML, though there should.
    But we need to do something to erase the stink of this and unfairly making
a university employee a pariah.
    Side note: Except for one case where inflammatory accusations that are very harmful to say about someone, everyone is largely handling this in a mature and respectful.
  Appreciate that and hope it continues. 
 

The Dude wrote:

Can keep bringing this up year after year .... after 9 years but the guy is persona non grata and the abusive behavior which led to his termination remains... what it was 2012-2016

Dude still has his panties in a bunch over ML. If he were ever to realize that many, if not most, of the allegations were exaggerated or non-existent, not sure how he’d handle it. But he bought hook line and sinker the agenda from our former AD whose own behavior made ML look like a choir boy. But in this world there are plenty of useful idiots that can parrot agendas. Chalk Dude up for what he is and no more. Just remember that when you mud wrestle with a pig you both end up dirty except the pig likes it. 8+ years later and the pig is apparently still enjoying it.

I don't really want to engage in this dialogue of the distant past about Mike. He was an excellent coach; however, based on what I heard from reliable sources, I believe the allegations about how badly he communicated with and treated his players were accurate and deserving of termination. He and our AD caused the men's basketball program to sink to 7 straight losing seasons.

Things were going great after the NIT Championship. Then insanity occurred. Like the top 10% HS graduation fiasco from the Admission Office. It seems every time things start to look good something bad happens. Old Grateful Dead song, " When Life seems Like Easy Street there's danger at your Door". 

College and HS coaching has changed a lot. Old school coaches have left in droves. My old HS coach was very tough, and very successful. Players were not cuddled.
Never forgot when a HS teacher in Freshman year said, "Gentlemen, your no longer children, you know right from wrong, so don' give me any excuses". Like "I'm only 15 years old". You got detention anyway and had to explain yourself at home for embarrassing the family.  Now I hear 30-year-olds complain that they are too young to be responsible. Insane. Different world.