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Has the NCAA all but killed off the at large bids to non Power 5s?
The Quad 1-4 system seemed like a blatant attempt to do so, CC implied so saying the system is "Rigged"
Clearly the Power conferences will get chance after chance to rack up those wins, and the non Power leagues barely any at all. Great record? Great computer #? No/Few Quad 1 wins... no cigar!
Lunardi puts out a Bracketology each week, he has ONE bid going to a non Power 5.
Even with an expanded field of 68, so that's a projectoin of
Power 5 at large Bids: 37
Non Power 5 at large 5 bids: 1
If the point of a season is largely an attempt to make The Dance, that essentially leaves the entire season down to the conference tournament for everyone but the Power 5.
Now, we saw just last year North Carolina get a bid despite a 1-12 Quad 1 Win record, so they will even abandon that when need be. 1-12 in Quad 1? That's fine! 1-0 or 1-1 or 0-0 no chance!
Where does this leave GW in an attempt to get back to The Dance?
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There is near zero chance that this GW team can get an at large bid absent a run through the conference like the KH team of 2005-06. The only possible pathway I see is a A-10 tournament championship.
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The Dude wrote:
Has the NCAA all but killed off the at large bids to non Power 5s?
The Quad 1-4 system seemed like a blatant attempt to do so, CC implied so saying the system is "Rigged"
Clearly the Power conferences will get chance after chance to rack up those wins, and the non Power leagues barely any at all. Great record? Great computer #? No/Few Quad 1 wins... no cigar!
Lunardi puts out a Bracketology each week, he has ONE bid going to a non Power 5.
Even with an expanded field of 68, so that's a projectoin of
Power 5 at large Bids: 37
Non Power 5 at large 5 bids: 1
If the point of a season is largely an attempt to make The Dance, that essentially leaves the entire season down to the conference tournament for everyone but the Power 5.
Now, we saw just last year North Carolina get a bid despite a 1-12 Quad 1 Win record, so they will even abandon that when need be. 1-12 in Quad 1? That's fine! 1-0 or 1-1 or 0-0 no chance!
Where does this leave GW in an attempt to get back to The Dance?
With all due respect, how many different ways can you find of making this exact same point? You do it every season though December seems a bit early for you. This take isn't debatable or newsworthy., though CC's comments turned out to be.
What I wondered at the time CC made those comments was whether this was a calculated attempt to gain the attention of pollsters and others who follow the sport. Or, was it more like CC's team just won its fifth straight game (four of them convincingly) and CC just spontaneously spoke about how he has a really good team but that they have to continue to blow out teams in order to have a chance at an at large. Regardless, making those comments just five games into a season may in retrospect have been a bit premature.
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Gwmayhem wrote:
The Dude wrote:
Has the NCAA all but killed off the at large bids to non Power 5s?
The Quad 1-4 system seemed like a blatant attempt to do so, CC implied so saying the system is "Rigged"
Clearly the Power conferences will get chance after chance to rack up those wins, and the non Power leagues barely any at all. Great record? Great computer #? No/Few Quad 1 wins... no cigar!
Lunardi puts out a Bracketology each week, he has ONE bid going to a non Power 5.
Even with an expanded field of 68, so that's a projectoin of
Power 5 at large Bids: 37
Non Power 5 at large 5 bids: 1
If the point of a season is largely an attempt to make The Dance, that essentially leaves the entire season down to the conference tournament for everyone but the Power 5.
Now, we saw just last year North Carolina get a bid despite a 1-12 Quad 1 Win record, so they will even abandon that when need be. 1-12 in Quad 1? That's fine! 1-0 or 1-1 or 0-0 no chance!
Where does this leave GW in an attempt to get back to The Dance?
With all due respect, how many different ways can you find of making this exact same point? You do it every season though December seems a bit early for you. This take isn't debatable or newsworthy., though CC's comments turned out to be.
What I wondered at the time CC made those comments was whether this was a calculated attempt to gain the attention of pollsters and others who follow the sport. Or, was it more like CC's team just won its fifth straight game (four of them convincingly) and CC just spontaneously spoke about how he has a really good team but that they have to continue to blow out teams in order to have a chance at an at large. Regardless, making those comments just five games into a season may in retrospect have been a bit premature.
Agree with you Mayhem, tho I wondered if Caputo didn’t potentially put us at a disadvantage when he made those comments. It’s not a stretch to think that if it came down to GW being on the bubble, in the four corners of that committee room there’d be some guys who remembered that remark and basically say “fuck Caputo.”
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Truth is with our talent, we screwed up bigtime--even in a fairly lame tournament and then
laid an egg against Delaware big time. An unexpected loss happens to most every team, but
we managed to fall well below expectations.
The plus side is (if we can get past whatever Division X opponent we play next on a random
weekday at noon) it's about to be a whole new season.
So, enjoy the break. And let's get to it, guys, and right the ship.
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Obviously, our league record is the key. We've been picked to finish 1-4 preseason, but that is in doubt so far this season. I believe we have the talent, but in my opinion, Coach needs to show he can win more league games than in the past and also motivate his players (Delaware!). I believe that the jury is still out.
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Gwmayhem wrote:
What I wondered at the time CC made those comments was whether this was a calculated attempt to gain the attention of pollsters and others who follow the sport. Or, was it more like CC's team just won its fifth straight game (four of them convincingly) and CC just spontaneously spoke about how he has a really good team but that they have to continue to blow out teams in order to have a chance at an at large. Regardless, making those comments just five games into a season may in retrospect have been a bit premature.
I believe the question was “What team are you most looking forward to playing in the Caymans”?
Gotta think that rant was coming out one way or another
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How many of the past GW At Large bids would not have been granted under the current criteria? Most
If the At Large Bids to non Power 5s ends being one... that's a good thing? Surely that's what the Quad criteria was designed to get.
Saint Louis has a NET of 21, they are 11-1, they are 2-1 in Quad 2 and haven't played a Quad 1 game.
I'm sure if they could have, they would have preferred 4 or 5 chances, instead they are going to have basically win on the road vs the top of the A10 or they too will be passed over
Oklahoma State has a NET of 77 and has also not played a Quad 1 game yet but Lunardi has them in his last 4 byes. Baylor too, 0-1 in Quad 1. But of course they will get their 10-13 cracks and last year as we saw with North Carolina, 1-12 can get you in! 1-12!!