That's Miami of Ohio right?

Miami (OH) definitely still gets in even with a loss in their conference tourney.

AP #19 Miami (OH) would according to all of the bracketologists I've seen, be left out with a loss in their Conf tourney, as they are a 12 seed on these forecasts with the auto bid.  A loss would surely drop them out if they are correct.   

This was always the end game for the rigged "Quad 1-4" system, better to be 1-10 vs Quad 1 then 0-0 
Miami has a Quad 2 win, and would clearly have more if they had a chance.  

This is the MAC too, not the MEAC, most of the teams are 50-220, so while they didn't get more than 1 chance at a "Quad 1-2" win, they did beat a lot of teams on the road in the 100s.  

In contrast, Indiana is 4-13 vs Quad 1-2 and on the bubble, if you do get these games and you lose almost all of them, that's superior to 1-0?  How many losses washes away a few wins?

Same story year after year since this supremely rigged system went in

This VCU would team would have been about an 8 seed 10-20 years ago, they are barely in now, and maybe out.   A lot of the GW 8-9 at large seed seasons would surely be left out now with this system.

Now, the most ridiculous case of them all, Saint Louis is 26-3, 2-1 in Quad 1 and 7-2 Quad 1-2, Palm has them as a 10 seed.  10 seed??  He has 2-10 Quad 1 Ohio St a 9 seed.   What is the possible justification for that? When Saint Louis got those games they won almost all of them.  Ohio St lost almost all of them.

If you dont get them all (most teams) you have zero chance at all, even if you go 29-0 like Miami.  So might as well cancel the season and just fast forward to the Conf Tourney! that's all that matters for 250 teams after all

The rest is just a way to over seed Power 5s and underseed the few non Power teams in the field, Gonzaga St Marys Saint Louis VCU Utah St (and that's about it)

 

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Just a little over 10 years ago. Wichita State was undefeated, they got a one seed

What seed would they get today? 9? 11?

The prior year they lost six games in the Missouri valley conference and got an at large bid, a nine seed and went to the final four!

Can you imagine a six loss in conference Missouri valley team even being considered these days? Not a chance.  They showed they belonged made the final four and then they almost ran the table the next season before running into a Kentucky team put to knock them out in the second round!

That was the old rig system. You try to knock the teams out with the bracket. Now you just get rid of them all together. Wherever you can

Chris said the system was rigged before the year and of course he's right, but you don't hear much at all. If anything from the media about the rigged system, they seem perfectly fine

Next year if we win the close games unlike this season, we might be the victims of it.  Unless you have a near perfect season like Saint Louis, almost impossible. I'm not convinced VCU would actually get a bid if the selection was today. I think they would be left out

The Bruce Pearl comments about Miami of Ohio being the bottom of a power conference if they were in one are making the rounds

How convenient that propaganda since it benefits his son and the team he quit on days before the season started the most, that kind of logic.  Yet year after year we see teams with those kinds of seasons make deep runs in the tournament, Florida Atlantic, Gonzaga, Butler, Houston before they moved up

The computer systems must be so flawed to have Miami around 50, 50-100 spots ahead The bottom of the power 5!

Isn't that after all what the computer rankings are designed to show?? How teams with very different strength of schedules actually match up?

Auburn, despite their mediocre record probably is better than Miami and the computer suggests that they are, but to say that they are worse than the very bottom of the power conferences is completely ridiculous and he knows that. 

Auburn doesn't belong because they've lost half of their games. Miami of Ohio does belong because they're undefeated

We don't need the 47th Best power conference team, The tournament was a much richer experience when they were more Cinderellas, but that system made the powers that be a little less Rich. So here we go... It's only going to get worse year by year

Interesting facts via Joe Lunardi:

Miami has won four more true road games than Auburn has played, and road teams in men's college basketball win less than one-third of the time.

Finally, in the modern history of the NCAA tournament, great mid-majors have won almost twice as many games as middling high-majors, despite fewer bids and weaker seeding."

Gwmayhem wrote:

Maybe their OOC could have been better but I have no trouble believing that P5 schools turned them down.  

Someone actually went and FOIA'd Miami's requests for OOC games: https://x.com/MattBrownEP/status/2029549752400871618

Here is the list (according to someone who has access to the paywall)
Pittsburgh
Wisconsin
Marquette
USC
Oregon
Ohio State
Mississippi State
Florida

Response(s) but no agreement:
Michigan State
UCLA
Boise State
Grand Canyon
Kansas ("We'll need to look at next year")
BYU
Utah
Illinois ("I need to get two high NET games 300+ before I would think about playing you.")
Virginia Tech
Nebraska

That right there is why all the "schedule better" guys like Pearl and Jay Bilas are so full of shit.  Either they are stupid or know better and are lying to kill off mid majors.

Decision #1 for the committee.as #1 seed Belmont, now in the Missouri Valley, falls by 19 to Drake.  This wasn't the Drake team of the past 2 seasons.  They are 14-19 with today's win.

Belmont is 26-6 with today's loss and should be considered unlikely to make the field.  It's sickening that a 26-6 team stays home while an Indiana or Auburn or Texas gets in but that's today's reality.  Ten years ago, I believe Belmont would be dancing.  Today, it will be quickly pointed out that not only did they lose in their conference tournament but that they were blown out by a 13-19 team at the time.  5-2 in Q2 games with not a single Q1 game played.  Imagine who wouldn't want to play a program like Belmont?

 

Palm and others still have 31-0 Miami as a 12 seed and out of the tourney if they lose a game

The rigged system taken to its most absurd extreme

16-15 Auburn though on the bubble

The race for the 1 seeds

Top 5 NET: Gonzaga, Michigan, Florida, Arizona, and Duke

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