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BM posted a good interview with JC in the media thread that was held in August. Maybe lots of coaches are as thoughtful as JC or say the same types of things, but I really don't believe this is the case. I recall Mike Lonergan once saying that it's very important for him to recruit a group of guys who he is going to want to be around because during a season, it will appear as if he'll be spending more time with his team than his family. JC takes this notion to an even grander level. Some of what impressed me from the interview:
1) He wants kids who enjoy being connected and who love being a part of a team.
2) A player's GPA says a lot about how committed they are about being a serious student, but equally if not more important is their level of improvement academically.
3) He gets disgusted over how often other coaches are disingenuous towards their recruits. So many times a player will narrow their choice down to a final 4 schools and two of the schools have no real interest in the player, but hold on in case all of their better options don't pan out. A coach should either show their unequivocal interest or let the player go elsewhere. That's what's fair to the player.
4) While recruiting a player, he would ideally want to see the player play in a close high school game, a blowout high school game, a rivalry game, a practice, and at an AAU game. Some of these thoughts are my own assumptions but think about it:
A close game allows you to see how the player looks during clutch moments. Does he want the ball? Does he shy away from the ball? Does he assert himself?
In a blowout win, is the player still focused? Is he helping to get his teammates involved? In a bad loss, has he mentally checked out of the game? Or, is he still playing hard?
In a rivalry game, does he remain even-keeled or does he come out over-amped up? Does he make more mental errors than normal? Is he showing good leadership qualities?
At a practice, is it apparent that the player is receptive to being coached? Is he bringing energy to the court? Does he have the same competitive fire that he shows during games?
In an AAU setting (and these did come from JC), you can see how much a player may have improved in between his junior and senior seasons. You can evaluate based on the player going up against a higher talent level. You can even see if there is variance based on times of day that the player is competing.
Back to my original premise, I could be wrong about this but I think that JC gives all of this a tremendous amount of thought. He speaks often about wanting to love all of his players but does so in such a way that isn't coachspeak. He wants to make sure that he and his staff do everything in their power to develop these young men as players, students and above all else, responsible human beings. The simple philosophy is that if you can achieve all of this with the right group of individuals, the on-court wins will follow.
If I'm drinking the Kool-Aid, so be it. JC offers a perspective, philosophy and disposition that I'm not sure I've ever seen from a GW coach. I have though seen similar traits from a different coach who I witnessed turn around a moribund program into a highly competitive team. Put another way, I've seen this combination of positive thinking and granular detail work before. Last season's W-L record was nothing to write home about but I do feel happy that JC and staff are on our sideline and not the opposing one.
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Don't think you are drinking the Kool-Aid. JC is very similar in some ways to Mike Jarvis. Won't be as strong a personality but approaches coaching and life similarly. I know that they have talked and do talk regularly. JC is a man of faith much like Jarvis. Believes that GW has a potential role in the national spotlight and should aspire to that. Will work tirelessly to get there leaving no stones unturned. Very interested in not falling prey to group think so always wants to hear alternative thoughts. Clearly a guy parents can feel comfortable sending their sons to.
Put another way, I will be shocked if he doesn't succeed here.
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GWRising wrote:
Don't think you are drinking the Kool-Aid. JC is very similar in some ways to Mike Jarvis. Won't be as strong a personality but approaches coaching and life similarly. I know that they have talked and do talk regularly. JC is a man of faith much like Jarvis. Believes that GW has a potential role in the national spotlight and should aspire to that. Will work tirelessly to get there leaving no stones unturned. Very interested in not falling prey to group think so always wants to hear alternative thoughts. Clearly a guy parents can feel comfortable sending their sons to.
Put another way, I will be shocked if he doesn't succeed here.
GWRising, thank you for this information. Since his hiring, I have been very positive on JC. After reading what you've written, I feel even more assured that GW has found, and brought in the the right man at the right time. It's good to know that not only does JC love the game, but he loves the players, and hopefully will love GW. I don't know how long he's under contract here, but I'm glad he's with the Colonials now, and I will be grateful for his guidance for as long as he his here. Thank you again for sharing!
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Well, do not want to burst anyone's bubble of enthusiasm but remember coaches are hired and compensated with the expectations to win and win often. And, what makes coaches successful is talented basketball players in this case. We can all talk philosophy and values, but the only thing that really matters in this case is winning basketball games and recruiting talented basketball players with a high basketball IQ. Coaches love players who help them win games.
Dr. Mike, I feel you make excellent points. I can't find fault with what you've said. However, IMO, it is also very important to hold dear the values that JC has spoken about. And, I feel his value-set probably helps to recruit his type of player to GW. I feel we will win many games because he's bringing in players with great skill. However, I also feel that a well adjusted player that knows he's cared about, may perform better than a player with great skill that may not have the other intangible supports that JC is committed to bringing to everyone on the team. But I understand and don't find fault with anything you said. Thank you for mentioning them.
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Dr Mike, while I would never argue that any coach should feel secure in their position irrespective of wins and losses (and frankly, I'm not sure who would make this argument), your response says to me that you might be missing the point of my post. And, what 22andF mentions (well adjusted players who feel loved) is only part of the equation. My point is that JC seems to go to meticulous detail when researching whether a young man will fit in with his culture. Just the fact that he wants to see high school players play in different scenarios (close games, blow-outs, rivalry games, at practice, in AAU) struck me as being very thoughtful. Maybe most if not all coaches would agree with this but I've never actually heard anyone ever say this. What I have seen, at high major programs with far more established head coaches, is the head coach may not ever see the player play in person until it's time to close the deal. In other words, he relies on the assistant to come forward and tell the head coach that he is now needed to make an appearance. Sure, JC is young and hungry and maybe when he's a more established head coach at a big program, he may operate differently. But for now, I feel very fortunate that we have a hands on coach who is honest and straightforward with players and does all he can to land who he wants.
And again, as long as he knows how to evaluate talent and brings in guys he truly wants, the wins should follow.
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Gwmayhem wrote:
Dr Mike, while I would never argue that any coach should feel secure in their position irrespective of wins and losses (and frankly, I'm not sure who would make this argument), your response says to me that you might be missing the point of my post. And, what 22andF mentions (well adjusted players who feel loved) is only part of the equation. My point is that JC seems to go to meticulous detail when researching whether a young man will fit in with his culture. Just the fact that he wants to see high school players play in different scenarios (close games, blow-outs, rivalry games, at practice, in AAU) struck me as being very thoughtful. Maybe most if not all coaches would agree with this but I've never actually heard anyone ever say this. What I have seen, at high major programs with far more established head coaches, is the head coach may not ever see the player play in person until it's time to close the deal. In other words, he relies on the assistant to come forward and tell the head coach that he is now needed to make an appearance. Sure, JC is young and hungry and maybe when he's a more established head coach at a big program, he may operate differently. But for now, I feel very fortunate that we have a hands on coach who is honest and straightforward with players and does all he can to land who he wants.
And again, as long as he knows how to evaluate talent and brings in guys he truly wants, the wins should follow.
Gwmayhem, thank you for elaborating. I had understood your points from your initial post, but believe my first response was neither clear nor complete. I feel that you have captured the essence of what a high quality coach must do in this era of D-1 college basketball. It is, in my opinion, so important to have and maintain a core belief system like JC has. When coupled with the way he's operating every aspect of the team (that is under his control), I feel GW is very fortunate to have him here at GW. I hope that he stays for a very long time! And that goes for Tonya too!
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Dr. Mike, you've packed several statements in your post which I'm happy to offer opinions on:
1) Is GW committing to compete at the D1 level? Well, this boils down to how one defines this. I would agree that the investment is such that the program can not realistically compete for a national championship. I am not sure that Mason, Butler prior to joining the Big East, or even VCU would have been able to say otherwise during their Final 4 runs either. There is always the hope that you can make the field and then get hot at the right time. But that's not at all the same thing as what the Dukes, Kentucky's and Kansas's are investing on an annual basis.
2) Is GW's goal to win the A10 Championship or earn a slot in the NCAA Tournament? I'd have to say yes to this as evidenced by the school's history. The fact is that GW has won A10 Championships and has gone to the Dance. These are obviously far more attainable goals than winning a national championship.
I'd say your counterargument to this is that we have certain conference members, like Dayton, VCU, St. Louis, UMASS, URI and Richmond who have greater followings and who invest more in their programs. This is true and should put those programs with a leg up over other A10 schools. However, GW competing against Duke or Kentucky is entirely different than GW competing against Dayton or VCU. Often, the great equalizer or differentiator is the head coach. St. Joe's has never been among the conference's big spenders but Martelli was a key to their frequent success. Mark Schmidt wins at St. Bonaventure where few before him had ever done so consistently. Meanwhile, Fordham invests more than you would think yet has been a perennial cellar-dweller.
The hope at GW has always been to find the virtually unknown diamond in the rough. John Kuester, Mike Jarvis and Mike Lonergan gave us hope because they each led smaller programs to success as head coaches. Bob Tallent did not have a coaching pedigree aside from coaching GW's JV team, but his ties to GW were so strong that he was given a chance. Gerry Gimelstob and Karl Hobbs enjoyed success as Assistant Coaches at major programs. None of these guys were really household names (aside from Kuester who was a great college player who played in the NBA and Jarvis who coached Patrick Ewing in high school) based on their head coaching college careers. The only time we landed a well-established college head coach ended up bombing spectacularly (Tom Penders).
So in Jamion, I believe you're barking up the right tree. A young, fairly unknown college coach who has had some success at smaller programs. If he's good, GW should do whatever it can (notice I said whatever it can and not whatever it takes) to keep him here for as long as possible. (Like Jarvis, eventually, the higher paying majors come along and it's unrealistic to expect JC to stay at GW forever.) Hypothetically, if JC were at GW for 10 seasons, and led the team to 5 NCAA Tournaments which included a Sweet 16 appearance, it's doubtful that we'd be having a discussion about the school's lack of investment in the program.
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I know Jamion pretty well by now, having had a great deal of interaction with him. I have known at a personal level every GW coach since Carl Sloan and am more impressed by Jamion as a coach and leader than any of the other coaches in the last 50 years. Our best coach previously was Mike Jarvis, but he didn't bring the positive motivation and energy to his team the way Jamion does. I am optimistic we can do great things with Coach Christian!
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AT Hiker wrote:
I know Jamion pretty well by now, having had a great deal of interaction with him. I have known at a personal level every GW coach since Carl Sloan and am more impressed by Jamion as a coach and leader than any of the other coaches in the last 50 years. Our best coach previously was Mike Jarvis, but he didn't bring the positive motivation and energy to his team the way Jamion does. I am optimistic we can do great things with Coach Christian!
AT Hiker, thank you for the personal insight. I had a feeling that Jamion was a special kind of coach and leader. Your confirmation is especially meaningful as you have known so many GW coaches, including the great Mike Jarvis.
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Dr. Mike, we're obviously interpreting JC's words quite differently. I agree with you...most coaches do talk about having good kids who practice and play hard, are good citizens, go to class and do well in school, and are like family.
JC talks about observing players in different on-court situations before he offers a scholarship, caring as much if not more about a player's academic improvement as his overall GPA, and being honest with a recruit by saying he's not interested rather than providing him with false hope. This is my point...these are the types of things that aren't "coachspeak"; instead, comments like these strike me as being very thoughtful and genuine.
Sure, JC will talk about loving his players and many other coaches will as well. Am not saying that JC is incapable of "coachspeak". However, having listened to the interview BM posted in the media thread (and perhaps it would be helpful for you to do so in order to understand my point, if you haven't already), I came away convinced that JC is not simply saying what all other coaches say. If I were a young player being recruited by JC, his words would very effectively resonate. And I would not think that would be true of many coaches.
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More accolades for our head coach. Seth Davis's column in The Athletic cited the 40 most influential people in college basketball under the age of 40 (which includes anyone connected to the sport in addition to coaches...administrators, announcers, agents, scouts, sneaker reps, and even a referee were included). The 40 were not ranked. Here is what Davis wrote about JC:
Christian has his work cut out for him in trying to revive GW, a program that has been to just one NCAA Tournament since 2007, but he has the chops to get it done. He was just 29 when his alma mater, MSM, hired him to be head coach in 2012. Over the next six years, Christian took the Mountaineers to two NCAA Tournaments and finished first and second in the NEC the final two seasons. He then spent one season at Siena, helping the Saints to win 11 games in the MAAC after winning four the previous season, before leaving for GW in 2019. The Colonials finished 10th in the A10 in Christian's first season, but his track record suggests improvement is on the way, and the up-tempo, pressing style he learned during his season as an assistant to Shaka Smart at VCU should prove attractive to recruits.
This doesn't win you any games as Dr Mike might point out but it's still positive publicity from a well respected source. Can't exactly be a bad thing.