Gwmayhem wrote:

Perhaps not for long.  Gregg Marshall is being investigated internally by Wichita State for abusive behavior.  According to ESPN and The Athletic, this involves both physical and verbal abuse.  On one occasion, he pushed and then punched one of his players after said player made what Marshall thought was a dirty play at a practice.  In another incident, he berated a staff member and then put one of his hands around his neck according to two witnesses. 

In another anecdote, an athlete from a different sport parked briefly in Marshall's parking space.  This was a common practice as athletes might need to run into the building for only a brief period.  Marshall  would typically drive up and block these cars when he saw anyone do this.  On one occasion, Marshall was too late and saw the student pulling out of the spot.  Realizing he couldn't keep him blocked in the spot, he proceeded to block the parking exit so the student couldn't drive away.  Marshall walked over to the driver and asked whether he knew who the fuck he was?  In the alltime greatest answer to this obnoxious, egotistical question, the student said that he didn't care who the fuck he was.  Marshall then attempted to land a punch with the student in the driver's seat.

In case you're wondering why Marshall has spent all of these years at Wichita State, the answer is because his reputation has preceded him and no major program would hire him.  In case you're wondering why is this all coming out now, I'd say it was a combination of 7 players transferring out (along with an incoming freshman reneging on his LOI), and Wichita losing its conference dominance since joining the AAC. 

Gwmayhem, thank you for posting this information. I feel it is very important to make sure issues and problems like these are kept front and center. It seems to me very sad that this kind of behavior could be deemed acceptable.  

A few updates on this story.  The Gregg Marshall investigation continues.  Yesterday, a group of major donors purchased an ad in the local newspaper showing their support for Marshall.  The 2015-16 players who spoke out only did so over the past month because they did not want their comments to be the first public comments on the story.  Once Jeff Goodman broke the story, and the players saw that this was an independent investigation and not one pre-determined to defend Marshall, they spoke out against their former coach.  Former players at Winthrop (where Marshall formerly coached) also did the same.

Sorry in advance if this is going to ruffle any feathers but the parallels here to Mike Lonergan's situation are very hard to ignore.  First, Marshall has been accused of both physical and verbal abuse whereas there were zero allegations of physical abuse against ML.  On the subject of verbal abuse, assuming comments attributed to ML are true, the styles of the two coaches are quite different.  Marshall allegedly gets in the faces of his players and screams at them.  Belittles them.  Shows them up.  Reminds me of The Great Santini.  Tear them down so you can build them back up and toughen them up.  Lonergan's approach appears to be more passive-aggressive.  Making ill-advised jokes that sting, like the food stamp comment.  Or, referencing players in an old-school manner during games, like referring to Derrick Gordon as the gay kid or Jeremy Lin as the Asian one.  The intent appears to be to identify a player rather than insult them, but these are things that just shouldn't be said today.  Or, complaining to players about the absurdly outrageous actions of his athletic director.  Inappropriate to be sure but not what I'd think of as mental abuse.

What of course is fascinating is that because Marshall has had greater success at a more lucrative program, it stands to reason that he may keep his job despite allegations that appear to be far more damning than what took place in Foggy Bottom.  Sadly, I didn't say surprising, only fascinating. 

GWAA, I'd beg to differ with there being no parallel.  Both schools play Division 1 basketball at a high enough level that reaching the NCAA Tournament is a legitimate goal for both schools in many seasons.  Nobody is lumping together WSU's athletic revenue or rabid fan base with GW's, nor is anybody lumping together GW's academics with WSU's academics.  But two schools with coaches accused of mental abuse?  One who for the moment still has his job, seemingly guilty of a lot more than the other who lost his?  Yes, there are plenty of parallels (along with plenty of differences).  

Walking away with $7.75 million to be paid out over the next 6 years.  One of his former players called this a joke.  One coach says that he's been treating players like this for years and to walk away with this much money is indicative of what a messed up system this is.

Truer words were never spoken.

Misread this thread title, though it was a ML reference "6 years later and this guy still has no job???"

I guess abusing your players ends your collegiate coaching career, something known by 99.999% of sports fans, except 1 guy as the 11 fake personas masquerading as 11 people on a site year after year pretending.  
Hey what is ML up to "Joel?" over half a decade, zero job offers

No one wants to hire a guy who was fired for abusing student athletes???