Six of the sixteen teams in the Crown field do not even have winning records:

Arizona St 13-19
Butler 14-19
Depaul 14-19
Colorado 14-20
USC 16-17
Utah 16-16

TJT85 wrote:

Six of the sixteen teams in the Crown field do not even have winning records:

Arizona St 13-19
Butler 14-19
Depaul 14-19
Colorado 14-20
USC 16-17
Utah 16-16

Even though they have stinky records, they would be all Quad 2 games in the regular season, except for DePaul.

ASU - NET 74
Butler - NET 83
DePaul - NET 119
Colorado - NET 86
USC - NET 70
Utah - NET 73

FWIW, GW finished with a NET of 124.
 

So Boise is #1 seed and GW #16 seed?

 

Because the portal will be open prior to the start of this tournament, there is an actual rule for The Crown that states that all teams must have at least 7 players in order to be eligible.  I haven't come across a rule like this since my son was regularly participating in rec basketball.

I have been and will remain a proponant of a stronger schedule.   The flip side, of course, is that our weak schedule took a team with too many holes to be considered good to 21 wins, a ranking in the top quarter of division 1 and a post season tournament consisting primarily of power conference teams, playing on national television with the opportunity to not only win some money, but the theoretical possibility of playing Ge""getown for the first time in roughly 45 years.    I suspect that even if went 8-4 against a stronger schedule (I am not counting our d2 win), we would be home watching "The Crown" with our friends from Richmond and Lasalle rather that playing in Vegas.

I have mixed feelings.   Yes, it was great to be invited to a post season tournament of any kind.  This shows some real progress with the program.    And it is also great to be playing in a tournament that consists mostly of high majors, even if several were sub 500 for the season.  But on the other hand, given the  lateness of the date of the tournament and its lack of national significance, along with the time that has lapsed since we played our last game,  gives the crown the feel of an exhibition game for me.   We will be a week into baseball's regular season, and I am in a Nats mode already.    I am also hating the idea that we will be playing with at least 3 players who are no longer Revs and very well may have their own agenda other than advancing GW's.   For good or bad reason, they have chosen to leave GW and are no longer representative of the school. As such, they will certainly be playing for the names on the back of their jerseys rather than the name on the front.   I just cannot get excited for these 3 any longer.    Play only the kids who have chosen to stay or stayed long enough to end their eligibility as a Rev.    I would wish the others good luck, but their time here has ended and they should now move on.

Last edited by Long Suffering Fan (3/27/2025 8:28 am)

With respect to the Crown specifically, I think it remains to be seen whether it will continue to be played so late after conference tournaments or if it's moved to directly compete with the NIT.  I could see the latter happening next year, especially with the NIT basically becoming the mid-major tournament.  The Crown feels more like a Christmas Bowl game, and it wouldn't surprise me to see a similar level of effort from a lot of the teams involved.

With respect to post-season tournaments generally, I think they are now just book ends on the season as opposed to potentially being used to build for next season. Kids these days don't feel any ill will towards the portalers, in fact it's quite the contrary, so I don't think it should impact how the team plays in Vegas.    Obviously, we as fans are allowed to feel differently and can root harder for the ones who for now are sticking around.  

Last edited by GW0509 (3/27/2025 8:33 am)

Looks like Boise State only has one player lost to the portal so far: 
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[*]SO SG Chris Lockett Jr=inherit || HT/WT: 6’4”/205 =inherit|| HS rank: =inherit★★★ from New Orleans, LA =inherit|| Bio: Boise State (2024-2025) =inherit|| ‘25 stats: Started 5/24 games, 3.1 points, 1.4 rebounds, 0.9 assists, 33.3% FG, 27.5% 3PT, 72.7% FT
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Make no mistake about what The Crown is: a made for television event.  It will not drag out over three weeks like the NCAA tournament or the NIT.  It will go head-to-head with the NIT semis and finals, hoping that their power conference teams even in an early round will outdraw presumed mid-majors vying for the NIT title.  Take away these 3 NIT games and The Crown owns men's college basketball for a full week, even after considering that it's a tournament featuring non-Top 50 schools.  Its semifinals lead into the men's NCAA Final 4.  I would not foresee this event moving up on the calendar as it is strategically placed precisely where it is.

Speaking of Boise State, they have a great player in Tyson Degenhart, a 6' 8" forward who promises to be a nightmare matchup for GW.  He is 29 points away from 2,000 for his career.  Tyson is also the MWC's second player to place on the conference's first team for three consecutive years.  The other is a player you may remember who was watching his alma mater advance to the Sweet 16 last Saturday...Jimmer Fredette.

moneybox wrote:

PS: I watched Kent State play Loyola yesterday and the former had a much deeper frontline than us. Given that Kent State is not what you call a basketball powerhouse, how do they bring in players like that and we can't?

Kent St?  They are in the bottom 10 for height in the country.  They only start onr guy over 6’5” (and he’s 6’8”) and they bring one 6’9” guy off the bench.

Not sure how that would be considered a deeper frontline than Castro (better than anyone on their team), Hansen, and Buchanan?

They also let Rubin and Deloach (who split 40 minutes) combine for 26 points, 24 rebounds, and 6 blocks.