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Let's discuss how to characterize your anticipation of the upcoming season. I've asked and answered several questions and am curious to learn your answers:
1) Are you looking forward to the upcoming season?
Yes, it's college basketball. I follow the sport both from a GW perspective as well as a national one. If they'll be playing, I'll be watching.
2) Are you looking forward to the season like you would any other season?
No, this one is different. Attending games in person is a big part of why I am so interested in the sport. Not knowing both who may get sick (and God forbid die) as well as the numbers of postponed and cancelled games due to Covid is very disconcerting. There is a fair amount of apprehension that's mixed in with my usual excitement about the upcoming season.
3) Is it selfish to ask these players and coaches to risk their health?
Mostly no, as long as everyone is being given the option to opt-out without any penalty. I would though feel better (or perhaps worse) if I knew more about how often our players and coaches will be tested compared to the rest of the sport. The fact is that players really want to play and coaches really want to coach. As long as this can be accomplished safely and effectively, I'm all for proceeding.
4) From a team performance perspective, does this season have an * next to it?
As long as teams can each play a full conference season, postseason tournaments, and more than just a handful of nonconference games, I don't think so. If a team plays say 8 rather than 13 OOC games, this will be fine.
5) Given the uniqueness of the times, should all Division 1 teams qualify for the Dance?
Next.
6) Should the field be expanded to say 96 or 128 schools this season only?
Nope.
7) Might you be less engaged as a GW fan this season if you are unable to attend games in person?
This is a good question if I do say so myself. I'd like to think not as long as I can watch or stream practically all of the games. And, if the team has more success this season than most are expecting, I'd like to think I'd be every bit as involved. However, if the team improves to become say a middle of the pack conference team and I'm unable to see any games in person, I could foresee potentially becoming less enthused under these circumstances. No way to know for sure until around February.
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1) Yes. As you said, I follow both GW and college basketball in general. Excited to see this year's team like many others as well as things that no one else will care about like:
- Can Hampton avoid the basement of the Big South after losing two of the top 10 scorers in college basketball last season?
- Can newcomer UC San Diego shoot over 40% from deep as they did last year in D2 (would have been second best in D1 last year after BYU)?
- Can Kennesaw State approach shooting 40% from the field this season? They somehow shot 35% from the field, yet 70% from the line, so I'm of the belief that their shooting can improve. Unfortunately, they also lose their lone player to graduation who scored over 10 a game. While he was by no means efficient, it will be tough to replace when you score just 55 points as a team, but their freshman class seems promising and I think their current coach will be pretty good in the league (certainly an upgrade over their last coach whose teams just never shot the 3 ball). They have pretty good facilities as well which is encouraging.
I digress, but overall the answer is yes.
2) I think the answer is still yes? Although scheduling is looking like a big mess right now with the MTEs in Orlando and it's hard to trust the NCAA to do anything in an organized way (which ties in with the health concerns - nothing has really been standardized). Would love to attend some of the games, but can live with watching remotely.
3) No, and that's why I've come around on the blanket extra year rule for seniors even if they do play. Like you said, both players and coaches alike want to play, and anyone can opt out if they wish. Some players will definitely test positive during the season (it's a near guarantee) but how will things look when games are pushed out? Current scheduling issues have made pushing out the season a couple weeks make more sense, but at the same time it seems like windows to play the actual games are getting tighter if games do have to get rescheduled because of positive cases, and I have yet to see any consideration of extending the season later than usual. Health should not be compromised when it comes to scheduling. I'll admit, I wasn't 100% on board with Saban returning to coach Alabama against Georgia days after testing positive for COVID-19. He was cleared, but the SEC rules seemed a bit lax.
4) For the most part no, but not having fans does make a difference when it comes to the "psychological" factors during the games, and especially at the end of close games. I wonder if fake fan noises will be incorporated this season (of course, a lower priority compared to some other things). I guess this season is just 27 neutral site games that feel like practice reps? Unfortunate but the right thing to do.
5) What you said.
6) My thoughts are no different from 5). You could pick any number between the current 68 and 357 and I would still have the same answer. I will say that the stupid "four year transition period" that prevent newcomers to D1 from making the tournament should be removed, but it's the NCAA sooo...
7) I won't be less engaged, but in the scenario that we do improve considerably, it will be tough to not take in the college basketball atmosphere where everyone is hyped in the stands.
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I'll play.
1) Am I looking forward to this season?
Hell, yeah, but mostly because I think GW is going to be fun to watch and get behind. I believe JC has this program going in the right direction and, while nothing is certain, I think we're getting wherever it is we're going a lot faster than I thought we would.
2) Am I looking forward to it in a different way than other seasons?
See above.
3) Is it selfish to have the players out their risking their health?
It's only selfish if we force it upon them.
4) Asterisk?
Only if the league season is not fully played out, or if COVID completely decimates things.
5) Should everyone dance?
No, but I wouldn't mind seeing a 96-team model that provides a guaranteed spot for every regular season and conference tournament winner, and a guaranteed bye into the round of 64 to any team that wins both.
6. 96 or 128?
See above.
7. Is not being able to see the team in person going to cause me to be less engaged?
No, not at all. Truthfully I have not been able to get to more than a couple of games a season in recent years (but did get to catch them in Vegas a few years ago).
Honestly, I hope this season happens in a big way. I look at this year like the second episode of a movie trilogy: it could be good on its own, but it's primary function is to set-up the third film.
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1) Are you looking forward to the upcoming season?
I am very much looking forward to the upcoming season.
2) Are you looking forward to the season like you would any other season?
I am even more excited (and now nervous) about the upcoming season. I am more excited because I have felt that none of the other major sports have been good so far. But college hoops is different because the players care so much. So yes, this should be a great year if everyone can stay healthy. And that is why I am nervous, because I hope nobody gets sick. And, if people do get sick in large numbers, I feel the NCAA should consider stopping or ending the season. That would be disappointing, but not as bad as putting the players in danger.
3) Is it selfish to ask these players and coaches to risk their health?
I feel any player or coach can opt-out, so no. But in my opinion, it would be selfish to pressure them to play or coach. I hope that doesn't happen.
4) From a team performance perspective, does this season have an * next to it?
If players opt out or get sick and can't play, I feel the season for that team (or those teams) will have an asterisk.
5) Given the uniqueness of the times, should all Division 1 teams qualify for the Dance?
I don't think so, but I wouldn't be opposed to seeing an expanded field. That could be fun.
6) Should the field be expanded to say 96 or 128 schools this season only?
See my answer to 5, above!!!
7) Might you be less engaged as a GW fan this season if you are unable to attend games in person?
I feel I will be just as engaged, but it will be sad not to be able to go to a few games. But I feel that's a small price to pay given the alternative which might be no season at all.
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I would take the time to answer each of your questions but with so much uncertainty even now, my answer will just be this ...
1. I will take whatever we can get - games, results, etc.
2. I will first and foremost hope that our players, coaches, administrators and fans stay healthy
3. If there is a NCAA tournament, I will again take whatever size they give us whether that hurts us or helps us.
4. I will be engaged for virtually anything related to GW basketball.
5. I will remain focused on hoping that by 2021-22, we can shake this pandemic and return to life as it once was.
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GWRising wrote:
I would take the time to answer each of your questions but with so much uncertainty even now, my answer will just be this ...
1. I will take whatever we can get - games, results, etc.
2. I will first and foremost hope that our players, coaches, administrators and fans stay healthy
3. If there is a NCAA tournament, I will again take whatever size they give us whether that hurts us or helps us.
4. I will be engaged for virtually anything related to GW basketball.
5. I will remain focused on hoping that by 2021-22, we can shake this pandemic and return to life as it once was.
GWRising, after readying your responses, I feel much the way you do except for #4. Of course, GW basketball is the most important to me. However I feel I could still enjoy and stay engaged in the NCAA basketball season if for some reason (which I hope would not happen) the A10 or GW was badly or disproportionately impacted by the COVID-19 virus.
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22 and F - I agree. I just meant that if GW games were live streamed I will follow. If they are on TV I will watch, etc. If GW were to not play but others did I would definitely watch that too. I am a huge college basketball fan generally.
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Probably worth its own new thread but with practice having started, are there any insiders who can comment on:
a) how the freshmen look. Will one or more crack the rotation in a meaningful way?
b) how Matthew Moyer looks? Is there a good chance that he may put together a solid season playing in the A10?
c) how James Bishop looks? Does he need the ball in his hands to be effective? Is he spending time at the 1, 2, or both positions?
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1. Brelsford and Ball look good. Brown raw but athletic and powerful.
2. Moyer will be playing multiple positions for GW. He will really help.
3. Bishop playing both spots, Can really score it but can distribute as well.
Bonus observation: Hunter Dean looking really good but won't be eligible until end of first semester.
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Thank you GWRising. Sounds like Brown might be sitting and learning a bit which is ironic in that there's probably less frontcourt competition within this team than there is in the backcourt/wings. We keep hearing very good things about Hunter Dean which is curious when considering that he played very sparingly last season for a pretty dismal Southern Miss. team. I know he began last year injured but am wondering whether the injury fully healed last year. Sounds like he is fully healthy now. As for Tyler and Lincoln, would you foresee either or both as 15+ minute/game players during their freshmen seasons? Last question..am assuming that Amir is not practicing with the team due to his health. Fair assumption?
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Yes to Amir. I do not believe he will play at all this season.
Tyler and Lincoln's playing time will probably vary but I am not sure either gives us 15+ per game. I would put them in the 5-10 minute category at most as a guess but it could be more or less depending on the game and if they play well when given opportunities.
Dean is surprisingly athletic and I think has developed over the past year. Of course, he has to do it in games but the practice reports so far are very encouraging.
I wouldn't draw that conclusion on Brown just yet. I think he will have a role but like most big men, they take longer to develop. Don't assume that just Paar is the only other option. Dean and Moyer can play inside as well and Ace will give you a few minutes. I think the post is going to be a position by committee this year and it may well depend on the size and frontcourt abilities of the opponent as to who plays more or less each game. For example, Brown may be better against more athletic front courts, Chase against more skilled posts. Just hard to say right now.
The key to all of this is JC. He has long expressed a desire to play 8-9 guys in his regular rotation. With Moyer, Battle, Nelson, Bishop, Jack, Paar, Dean and Seymour as virtual locks for 8 of those spots that leaves Brelsford, Ball, Brown, Stallings and Leftwich fighting for limited time. Of those, Brown may see limited minutes because JC likes to not play his big men more than 20-25 a night. Brelsford and Ball will need to play behind Bishop, Nelson, Battle, Moyer and Seymour at the 1-2-3. How many minutes there are for those two I don't know. Of course, injuries could move them up the depth chart.
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1) Are you looking forward to the upcoming season?
Of course. GW basketball is my biggest sports passion.
2) Are you looking forward to the season like you would any other season?
Not even close. Part and parcel with my love of GW basketball is my attending the games. Of course the play on the court is the biggest part, but I love the entire college basketball atmosphere, which I believe sets it apart from the pros in terms of my entertainment. I love the pregame meal, chatting with the most knowledgeable GW fans in the world, the half time cookies and the buff and blue M&Ms; listening to the scouting report from the assistance coach, watching the cheer team, listening to the pep band, observing team comradery, watching how the teams and coaching staffs conduct themselves before and during the game, and even after as individuals and as a team; seeing the occasional celebrity at the game (i.e. local politician or former player) watching the play away from the ball; watching us play on the road (well, maybe I should rethink that last one) ... This is all lost by watching the games on TV, And I will miss it greatly.
3) Is it selfish to ask these players and coaches to risk their health?
If their health is indeed at risk, then yes, it is very selfish.
4) From a team performance perspective, does this season have an * next to it?
No. In the not so distant past, college basketball was playing a 26 or 27 game season. If we are looking at 24-26 games, then I would not discredit the season in any way.
5) Given the uniqueness of the times, should all Division 1 teams qualify for the Dance?
No. GW and every team ranked higher than it should go, everyone else no.
6) Should the field be expanded to say 96 or 128 schools this season only?
Leave the field where it is.
7) Might you be less engaged as a GW fan this season if you are unable to attend games in person?
No. For me, in the end, it has been primarily about winning and losing. My enjoyment of the event may be diminished, but my level of engagement will not be.
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Long Suffering Fan wrote:
1) Are you looking forward to the upcoming season?
Of course. GW basketball is my biggest sports passion.
2) Are you looking forward to the season like you would any other season?
Not even close. Part and parcel with my love of GW basketball is my attending the games. Of course the play on the court is the biggest part, but I love the entire college basketball atmosphere, which I believe sets it apart from the pros in terms of my entertainment. I love the pregame meal, chatting with the most knowledgeable GW fans in the world, the half time cookies and the buff and blue M&Ms; listening to the scouting report from the assistance coach, watching the cheer team, listening to the pep band, observing team comradery, watching how the teams and coaching staffs conduct themselves before and during the game, and even after as individuals and as a team; seeing the occasional celebrity at the game (i.e. local politician or former player) watching the play away from the ball; watching us play on the road (well, maybe I should rethink that last one) ... This is all lost by watching the games on TV, And I will miss it greatly.
3) Is it selfish to ask these players and coaches to risk their health?
If their health is indeed at risk, then yes, it is very selfish.
4) From a team performance perspective, does this season have an * next to it?
No. In the not so distant past, college basketball was playing a 26 or 27 game season. If we are looking at 24-26 games, then I would not discredit the season in any way.
5) Given the uniqueness of the times, should all Division 1 teams qualify for the Dance?
No. GW and every team ranked higher than it should go, everyone else no.
6) Should the field be expanded to say 96 or 128 schools this season only?
Leave the field where it is.
7) Might you be less engaged as a GW fan this season if you are unable to attend games in person?
No. For me, in the end, it has been primarily about winning and losing. My enjoyment of the event may be diminished, but my level of engagement will not be.
Long Suffering Fan, I read your post and, regarding your feelings about question #2, I feel you make an excellent point about potentially missing out on the experience of being at the Smith Center to see GW games in person. I will miss it greatly also if fans are not allowed to attend (or I don't feel comfortable attending) because of the pandemic. It's only my opinion, but I feel the virus is spinning out of control, so I don't anticipate any possibility of fan attendance this season. But I hope all (or at least most) of the games will be on live TV or streamed live on the internet.
Does anyone have any information on if the games will be broadcast or streamed, and how much it might cost to view them? Any information would be appreciated.
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22nd&F, hard to know for sure given that we haven't even seen a schedule. Here are some guidelines:
The Navy game will be shown on CBS Sports Network, the day before Thanksgiving at noon.
Out of conference games should be a mixed bag. Games against programs from larger conferences stand a better chance of being televised. For example, a game against Virginia Tech could easily end up on the ACC Network or as a long shot, on ESPN2 or ESPNU. A game against Tenn. State may not be televised or streamed. Depending on who the OOC opponents are, we may find that 1/2 of those games are unavailable for streaming (though we may go back to the days where home games are streamed along with Byron Kerr's radio call.). Practically all of the conference games will either be televised somewhere or steamed on ESPN+. There may be a handful that aren't but the vast majority should be available.
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Gwmayhem wrote:
22nd&F, hard to know for sure given that we haven't even seen a schedule. Here are some guidelines:
The Navy game will be shown on CBS Sports Network, the day before Thanksgiving at noon.
Out of conference games should be a mixed bag. Games against programs from larger conferences stand a better chance of being televised. For example, a game against Virginia Tech could easily end up on the ACC Network or as a long shot, on ESPN2 or ESPNU. A game against Tenn. State may not be televised or streamed. Depending on who the OOC opponents are, we may find that 1/2 of those games are unavailable for streaming (though we may go back to the days where home games are streamed along with Byron Kerr's radio call.). Practically all of the conference games will either be televised somewhere or steamed on ESPN+. There may be a handful that aren't but the vast majority should be available.
The fact that we've just seen the player projected to be the #1 pick in the NFL draft(who many peg to be a generational talent) just test positive for COVID should be a scare to college basketball that you need to have every possible game you can in a bubble atmosphere where players can be in a controlled environment for a long period of time. I bring this up to say that if GW participates in multiple MTE's with high-profile teams, there is a chance that a larger amount of OOC games will be carried by ESPN's TV networks(ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPNews, etc.), we won't have to pay the small fee for ESPN+. I don't think scheduling individual games is the right thing to do at this point for any school
1. I'm looking forward to the upcoming season because I'm a big fan of basketball, we could also see GW make a big leap in terms of wins because of the newcomers and how well the freshman played last year. I wish we could have seen this team under normal conditions where the players could have participated in the Kenner League, had an open practice and had an exhibition game/possibly an overseas trip. It looks like were going to see GW sight unseen on Thanksgiving Eve at Navy. All we can really go by are last year's memories for the returning players, social media videos of the newcomers and GWRising's information!!
2. I'm not sure that I'll be looking forward to this season like any other season because of the COVID uncertainty, Who Will Be Playing Who? What if a Star Player or Multiple Players From A Team Test Positive? What Happen If Games Get Postponed. But I'll look forward to seeing how good the incoming freshman are across the country, how much guys have improved and the impact of transfers.
3. Tough question, but the players do have the option of opting out of the season(like Collin Smith has done) so they aren't being forced to play
4. I think you have to put an asterisk on this college basketball season and EVERY season(MLB, NBA, NFL, College Football) in sports for 2020-2021 because of the unusual circumstances. Teams not being able to play home games in packed, familiar venues makes a huge difference. Also, players missing games due to COVID will ruin team dynamics in many instances. We could see a scenario where GW or another team is playing well, then a star player or multiple players test positive, which can derail a season(this may have happened to the New England Patriots in the NFL).
5. I think its a good idea for all teams to qualify for the NCAA tournament because of the unusual circumstances of the season. I don't think we are going to get an evened out schedule, so why not include every team. But we can only have this for this season
6. See #5
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Gwmayhem wrote:
22nd&F, hard to know for sure given that we haven't even seen a schedule. Here are some guidelines:
The Navy game will be shown on CBS Sports Network, the day before Thanksgiving at noon.
Out of conference games should be a mixed bag. Games against programs from larger conferences stand a better chance of being televised. For example, a game against Virginia Tech could easily end up on the ACC Network or as a long shot, on ESPN2 or ESPNU. A game against Tenn. State may not be televised or streamed. Depending on who the OOC opponents are, we may find that 1/2 of those games are unavailable for streaming (though we may go back to the days where home games are streamed along with Byron Kerr's radio call.). Practically all of the conference games will either be televised somewhere or steamed on ESPN+. There may be a handful that aren't but the vast majority should be available.
Every home game will be on ESPN+ or on tv. Road games depend on the opponents tv deal.
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Many teams around the world are selling "tickets" to watch livestreams of games not on TV, a sort of pay-per-view Internet style. The price is usually nominal (except in the case of English football where it is prohibitive and fans are boycotting) with revenue going to the teams. Might be a good idea for GW, especially since ESPN+ has all kinds of geographical restrictions that make it quite limiting for the global GW diaspora. (My city´s club gives tickets to its streams of home games out for free to season ticket holders). It works, but is nowhere near the same as being there in person. Other teams are transmitting for free on platforms like Facebook Live that allow them to track the data on viewers (which can also be a source of revenue). I doubt there will be many DI games this year that do not have streaming options should TV pass on the match up.