I'm hoping that the follow up  was as a result of someone (Christian) reaching out  and smoothing things over. 
Lets hope they find a role for him to be more involved going forward

With thats said I like the hiring of a young coach with DMV ties. This is a coach who I'm sure Bishop and Brelsford are very familiar with.

Quite the straw man response.

1. Does every former GW player warrant a call being explained why they are not being considered?  No.  But the guys who are owed that call should be easy to identify.  Mike Hall is an obvious one.

2. Does Pikiell owe calls to the guys that he coached at GW?  Only if they applied to join his staff and again, only those which made the most impact.  Certainly not every player.

3. Here's what does not go on in every program in America.  A former HOF player lashing out on Twitter for being disrespected under these circumstances.  

4.  JC does not ever have to call Pops, Shawnta, Yegor, etc or anyone who is not applying to join his staff.  

5. The fact that JC himself did not coach the player is entirely irrelevant.  It's not like GW's basketball program has this long, exhaustive history to learn.  Any head coach should learn enough about the program's history to get a feel for who should be contacted under this circumstance.  Besides, if JC was watching GW games on HTS while he was younger as he has indicated in the past, he should have no problem knowing who Mike is or understanding his contribution to this program.

Nobody is claiming this to be the end of the world.  It's simply a bad oversight on the part of JC and a poor look for the program in general.

Gwmayhem -

1. Please give me the list of guys since it is obvious.
2. Who said Mike Hall formally or informally applied?


 

danjsport - Coaches make decisions that not everyone is going to agree with. That's their right by virtue of the job they were hired to do. Current and former players are certainly entitled to their opinions. But the constant search for some sort of nefarious fire here where none exists is doing nobody, most of all the program, any favors. 

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GWRising, do you just enjoy being difficult?  Do you disagree that Mike was entitled to a courtesy call after all he has done for this program?  Fine, let's start with the Hall of Fame.  If you are a member of the school's Hall of Fame and you apply for a job on your sport's coaching staff and the decision is made not to grant an interview, the coach or AD should pick up the phone, thank you for your interest, and explain the circumstances as to why you are not being considered.  THIS IS REALLY NOT THAT HARD!!!

Who said Mike applied formally or informally?  Well, I can't think of a reason why Mike would be so upset about this if he had expressed zero interest to begin with.  Can you?

Agree Dude, former players are not entitled to jobs or entitled for consideration.  But, that's not what the other side is saying.  Do you disagree with the notion that a HOF player who expresses interest in a coaching position at his alma mater should in fact receive a call explaining why they are not being considered for a position (if in fact they are not to be interviewed)?     

I am not being difficult Gwmayhem. More interested in facts rather than conjecture based off of tweets and certainly not willing to throw JC under the bus for this without more.

Again, do you know for a fact Mike expressed interest? And if so, how was this interest expressed? 

The point I was making about applying (and you might want to consider) was it that Mike thought he should have been asked to apply and was not? Or was it that he disagreed with the result after applying (implying he was not really considered)? 

In either case, shouldn't Mike have called JC to discuss directly rather than resorting to social media first?  Maybe any misunderstanding could have been cleared up without the controversy.

I think the number one thing you are missing is how assistant coaching hires work. Generally, unless a coach doesn't have someone in mind, it's not a put in your resume type deal despite what the human resources department may encourage. Most coaches have a good idea of who they want for a job. And most times, it's people they have had a prior relationship with in some form. 

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The best way to handle this may have been,if it is precooked,which it likely was, to say initially, "We're thrilled someone like you is interested. But we're looking for someone who's been a guard,or already has at.least a bit of experience at the college level. So we'd love to have you as a special consulting coach (or something like that) to work with our bigger guys and share your knowledge and skills from college and the pros. You mean a lot to GW and we're grateful for your interest."
    It would have been best to do this at the initial approach. But if not,do it in a phone call afterward.
Or at least an email saying we're in the midst of some big Covid problems and we'll call you to follow up as soon as things settle down. We're excited to have your input.
Saying or doing nothing just pisses off a big pro class (think money donors as well as high profile supporters).
And those of us who would like some respect for the program's accomplishments before we turned to total crap in recent years,with many and varied bizarre and mysterious action to go along with our humiliating record. Like to look back at the time when we could say beat Fordham more than 1 in 4 times. And show respect to a legendary GW player and good guy.
  GW basketball (and GW as a university) seems to go out of its way to find opportunities to screw up and alienate people,even those who care for it the most.

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Mentzinger wrote:

GW Alum Abroad wrote:

Someday Joe Dooley and Mike Hall will be coaching a team that kicks GW´s butt, and GW will only have itself to blame...

This. So much this.

Seriously, was it that fucking hard to return the guy's call?

Second,

Also, somewhere in the AD's office someone shou8ld have a small spreadsheet of Info and contact info on all former GW players who are or have coached and plays who could provide help on the bench. That list would included all the Mikes... including  Mike "Joe" McDonald and Mike "Vaughn" Jones.

This goes double for women!!!!  I guess that Jone could be on both lists

 

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