Nobody can explain the science to Rising because you refuse to see it.   BTW, it's not a perfect science, it's just better than helping spread Covid even faster than it was already.

I may have started this thread, but if it is going to deteriorate in to a discussion of this crap again, I´d rather it get deleted and you guys take this to Spotify or Facebook or YouTube where it belongs/is tolerated.
And if you do go to the game, keep your f-ing mask on covering your nose, mouth and chin. Don´t be a dipshit.
 

I'm kinda with GWRising on this one but we all know where we all stand. Especially now that it is lifted, it is even less worth debating!

I'm with pretty much with Rising on this one. However, whatever you think of the masking rules please follow them. To not do so is a big FU to all the front line GW employees you encounter. To follow the rules supports those folks.

GWRising, you're sounding a lot like the teenager who can't understand why their parents are refusing to let them go to the unsupervised party while his friends' parents say it's OK.  This does not make the friends' parents correct nor in this situation should GW be considered to have taken the wrong approach.

The last thing in this world I am is a scientist but let me provide some data I have pertaining to Montgomery County.  Over the last 7 days, the incidence rate of virus infections was 553 per 100,000 residents.  7 days before this period, the rate was 1,049 per 100,000 residents.  And the 7 days before that, it was 1,861 per 100,000 residents.  So while the current rate may or may not be higher than when GW first made their decision, what's far more important is the current trend.  Having a large indoor gathering when a virus is spreading is a totally different circumstance than having such a gathering when a virus is diminishing.  You can ask then why not wait until the virus is completely gone but as you know, there is a risk/reward question which is always being asked whether you agree with the answer or not.  Starting Sunday, GW obviously feels that the risk of spreading the virus is now low enough that the reward of playing in front of home fans is worth it.

The one question you've raised that is harder to answer is why certain people (family members, limited number of road fans, etc.) have been allowed to attend.  Other than the fact that there would be far less people in the building, which in fact might be THE answer, I am hard pressed to answer why it was acceptable for some to attend but not others.

I totally agree with GW Rising. I have been closely following how college hoops across the country has dealt with whether fans are allowed. In the A-10 until very recently all programs have allowed fans. Fordham recently decided not to have fans; GW had these restrictions for six weeks. In addition, hardly any other D-1 program outside the Ive League has not allowed fans. UCLA and USC did have the ban for a game or two.

And every other D-1 school in the area has continued to allow fans. I am sensitive to the need to be careful about the virus and respect GWU. I think they went overboard with these restrictions. Imagine how our players and their family and our coaches must feel about operating under different rules than virtually everyone else
 

Am not accusing anyone of doing this, but I just don't feel you can lie blame or find fault with the school's decision to be overly cautious.  I am in agreement that only a select group of fans should not have been allowed to attend either.  To me, that was akin to being half-pregnant.  Either it's OK to attend or it's not OK.

Am also not on board with the Howard U and the Wizards did it so why can't GW rationale.  This does not make GW wrong for taking the position it did.

Am very happy things have improved to the point that we can return to the games. 

GWRising wrote:

GW Alum Abroad wrote:

I may have started this thread, but if it is going to deteriorate in to a discussion of this crap again, I´d rather it get deleted and you guys take this to Spotify or Facebook or YouTube where it belongs/is tolerated.
And if you do go to the game, keep your f-ing mask on covering your nose, mouth and chin. Don´t be a dipshit.
 

The reason this continues to be relevant is I believe GW is perhaps the ONLY team in the A-10 to restrict fans. This again puts us in a competitive disadvantage. Do you think our kids came here to play in front of no fans (in some cases for the second year in a row)? Do you think they wonder why schools like VCU, URI and St. Louis can have fans? Why can Howard and the Wizards? So the point is if someone can justify why GW did this, I'm all ears. Haven't heard one yet other than it would be just be better if we didn't have fans because no one will have the chance of getting exposed. If that's the rationale, why lift it now? Virus is still prevalent - more prevalent than at the time the ban was put in place.

Again, just so no one gets it twisted. I am triple vaxxed and have no problem properly wearing a mask when required  or asked to do so. This is not a discussion about vax or mask mandates. That's the discussion going on elsewhere. This is purely a discussion of why and on what basis a decision was made across campus to allow some fans but not others and what has now changed.

I think the bigger competitive disadvantage is our team stinks and their teams don't.