Since our basketball team has sucked and took a dump almost a decade ago, I understand some would like to switch topics and talk about anything else here. Not smart.
My personal beliefs are in line with Naismith (please God, I hope you aren't just another alias for the dude!).
We should just stick to whether or not we belong in the A-10 or the Patriot League, if they would have us.
Keep Raising High fellow Colonials!

Mike K, a political opponent who is trying to help Jews?  You mean Kanye's good friend?  The one who referred to blatant antisemites as fine people?  Yes, I get why you don't get it.  

Rising, I'll actually agree that many have "blind hatred" of Trump, but I'll stop well short of referring to this as over the top.  In the pre-Trump era, we of course had our political differences as Americans.  But then Trump came along and just under half of the country's voters put their trust in someone who could not possibly be less trustworthy.  The man spends every day as a lying, abusive racist and misogynist.  He has single-handedly turned up the vitriol and utter disrespect in this country.  He has attempted to normalize violence, cheating, and flat-out rudeness, as long as these things are being carried out to serve his own self-interests.  

What you should understand is that the blind hatred that does exist has little if anything to do with his policies.  It has everything to do with the horrific human being that this country saw fit to elect.  This is not a case of liberals having a tough time with Reagan/Bush policies or conservatives failing to grasp Obama's views.  We are well past this.  This is indeed personal, and our President is the one who made it this way through his vile words and actions.

Gwmayhem wrote:

Mike K, a political opponent who is trying to help Jews?  You mean Kanye's good friend?  The one who referred to blatant antisemites as fine people?  Yes, I get why you don't get it.  

Rising, I'll actually agree that many have "blind hatred" of Trump, but I'll stop well short of referring to this as over the top.  In the pre-Trump era, we of course had our political differences as Americans.  But then Trump came along and just under half of the country's voters put their trust in someone who could not possibly be less trustworthy.  The man spends every day as a lying, abusive racist and misogynist.  He has single-handedly turned up the vitriol and utter disrespect in this country.  He has attempted to normalize violence, cheating, and flat-out rudeness, as long as these things are being carried out to serve his own self-interests.  

What you should understand is that the blind hatred that does exist has little if anything to do with his policies.  It has everything to do with the horrific human being that this country saw fit to elect.  This is not a case of liberals having a tough time with Reagan/Bush policies or conservatives failing to grasp Obama's views.  We are well past this.  This is indeed personal, and our President is the one who made it this way through his vile words and actions.

But yet he won the election with full knowledge of who he is and how he behaves.. What does that tell you about how the other side is doing despite having most of the media, the academic establishment and a candidate without any of those personal qualities? It ought to tell you that a majority of people decided enough is enough and even though Trump has plenty of issues we'd rather have the asshole we know than the bs promises and "joy" that will soon turn to "chaos" or "despair". As I mentioned before, I know life long Democrats who wouldn't have been caught dead voting for Mitt Romney or George W. Bush who pulled the lever for Trump. In fact, I could introduce you to several people who voted Obama-Obama-Clinton-Biden-Trump or alternatively Obama-Obama-Trump-Biden-Trump. Go figure.

So you are welcome to constantly remind us about all of the personal failings he has and that you think he is a bad guy. Fine, won't even argue that. But if you think reflexive objection to everything Trump proposes or takes action on, even things that you would have supported if they were put forth by a Reagan or a Bush, because Trump is a 'bad guy" is a winning strategy, have at it. You are likely to learn that November 2024 was just the beginning of the permanent recession of the Left in this Country.

Glad she finally signed it, although in typical GW fashion a day late a dollar short. Is there any wonder the university is so often just mediocre?  It stands for nothing and is committed to nothing, including the basketball program.

In my opinion, there's no reasoning with the MAGA fools, They're unyielding in defending Trump's insane economic and social agendas and his fascist tactics. And to be clear, I thought Biden was a mostly pathetic president, but the man was not a fascist and didn't try to legislate morality. We had an independent congress and supreme court.  We had independent universities and a thriving scientific community.  Every word out of the President's mouth wasn't a lie. Ukraine started the war with Russia?  Canada is flooding our country with Fentanyl?  With the exception of a few countries (China included), that our trade deficit is the result of unfair trade practices of our long-time trading partners?  The non-ass-kissing media are the enemy of the people?  Trump's a grifter, a con-man.  MAGA world has taken the bait-hook, line and sinker and they're either too stupid or unable to shake the hook.

Did I agree with Biden speaking out of both sides of his mouth on Hamas (which is supported by more than 80% of Palestinians)?  About his almost open boarder policies?  About his student loan giveaway program?  Absolutely not. 

But fascism and the structural dismantling of our economic engine (while the president rakes in $Billions from Crypto and whipsawing the stock and bond markets) is very different from what was happening under President #46.

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Longing For Oscar-Real1 wrote:

Florida Colonial wrote:

Moderator: Can we move this chat to the general general discussion 

 

Moderator, can we move this back to the basketball thread so more people will see it?  Sort of important, don't you agree?

It may be important ,as are many things in our world, but its not basketball related. It would just lead to a slippery slope of "important" discussions ending up in a basketball thread. BTW I'm not minimizing the importance of the discussion in any way. Lets just keep our basketball thread as a place to get away from politics
 

Florida Colonial wrote:

Longing For Oscar-Real1 wrote:

Florida Colonial wrote:

Moderator: Can we move this chat to the general general discussion 

 

Moderator, can we move this back to the basketball thread so more people will see it?  Sort of important, don't you agree?

It may be important ,as are many things in our world, but its not basketball related. It would just lead to a slippery slope of "important" discussions ending up in a basketball thread. BTW I'm not minimizing the importance of the discussion in any way. Lets just keep our basketball thread as a place to get away from politics
 

I believe this goes directly to basketball. Ms. Granberg, who claims to be an advocate for the basketball program, is, by her action or inaction, most likely impacting how motivated people may be to donate to the cash-starved program.  Certainly, the MAGA crowd must have been proud of her (until she finally signed the letter).  I'm sure by dragging her feet, the anti-fascists could have easily been put-off.  Seems to me that our esteemed president may have figured out a way to upset everyone.    

I'm not at all surprised that GMU didn't sign it. I know several students that attend GMU and each of them say that it's a hotbed of antisemitic activity.

George Mason University student accused of plotting terror attack on Israeli consulate in New York City

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