Basketball Jones wrote:

The Dude wrote:

GW0509 wrote:

Imagine paying Georgetown prices to sit in a half empty Capital One Center to watch this home slate

Notre Dame
Lehigh
Fairfield
Mount St. Mary’s
St. Francis
Wagner
Albany
UMBC
Coppin State

That's some weak sauce for G'town, that being said I think Ed Cooley has to pile up wins and rebuild things after a disastrous half decade under Patrick Ewing.  I do feel for the guys working concessions at those games!  YIKES!

 

last year's prices were 10 tix for $199 or 20 tix for $299 plus a $50 donation to guarantee lower level non-wing seats

a Max of $25/game/ticket if you like the other Big East teams

TBH that's a great deal too, you can spend that much $ with ease at a Nats game with a few drinks parking and food and good seats

12/22 vs UVA-Wise   a non-D1 program  
i guess that is a Christmas present win

1 game left to fill out the schedule

We lost James IV, we lost Garrett Johnson to a season ending full season injury, beating on some lesser foes is a good idea because we are going to get pounded at times this year too, but we have talent to surprise some better teams too

A few good tests, a few teams that are WAY below us, we're a program in rebuild, anyone who thinks this year is going to be massive leap better be ready for the reality of the roster, talented but almost all brand new or year 2 to the program and a work in progress.

Last edited by The Dude (8/28/2024 6:27 pm)

The Dude wrote:

beating on some lesser foes is a good idea because we are going to get pounded at times this year too

I don't disagree, although I don't think you'll find anyone who will ever jump up and down when it comes to playing a non-D1 in December. The schedule should be lighter around exams but I don't want the team to peak in November again and go a full month before conference play where the defense isn't tested again. Unfortunately, this is what CBB scheduling is in 2024, and I hope we can use the UVA-Wise game to test some things out before conference play since it won't hurt our KenPom standing.

The Dude wrote:

we're a program in rebuild, anyone who thinks this year is going to be massive leap better be ready for the reality of the roster, talented but almost all brand new or year 2 to the program and a work in progress.

The reality is that there is no such thing as a "rebuild" anymore in this current climate. This isn't the NEC. A coach should have more leeway in year 1, but expectations start to grow every year after that. I think CC has done a great job targeting guys who are more likely to stay at GW (and are great representatives of the university) but it feels like wishful thinking to expect anyone to stay more than two years nowadays. I'd love to be wrong. Someone like JBIV sticking it out for four years is rare.

Taking a "massive leap" depends on how you define it. I agree that the roster still skews a bit young, and there's enough question marks that I'm not expecting a massive leap in the A10. Having said that, I am looking to see a sizable jump nationally. Torvik has us in the 130s without Garrett, and I think that's fair. Health always plays a role, but there's no reason GW shouldn't be top 150 every year. CC had us well on track to get there last year, however inexperience + injuries hurt that. I think he'll get there this year, although a new AD probably doesn't make things easier for him moving forward. 
 

This coming football season, Army is joining Navy in the AAC.  However, their annual game will take place after the conference championship game, thereby retaining its historical date on the calendar.  It will be considered a nonconference game.

So here's a thought...of the 12 A10 schools who GW will only play one time during the season, why not schedule a second meeting and consider it a nonconference game in the standings?  This would need to be coordinated through the league office to avoid playing the same school three times (before the A10 tournament) in the same season.  You could schedule home-and-homes so that if Duquesne were this opponent one year in Pittsburgh, we would run it back the next year in DC.  This would certainly upgrade the schedule when compared to playing a D2 opponent or say scheduling Appalachian State twice in the same season.

If teams won't play you at all, or on the road, or for less than a home and home, or won't grant a home and home, or the A10 does not engage in a conference vs. conference battle, why not play teams you know, at roughly your level, who may be in similar situations? 

the $$$ is offset by the revenue generated by the Home Games, and the road team has all the costs of travel and lodging and food its just plain and simple "It Is What it is"

 

Long Suffering Fan wrote:

This trend of scheduling D-II games during the season is disturbing.   Of the 350 plus D-1 schools, there must be one of them willing to play us.   I don't want to be watching us playing D-II.

Exactly. If they're paying $80,000 for VMI (VMI!), we can find a D1 team to play.
Even a decent one.
   Or have the courage to play home and return away games with a decent D1 program that has
the guts to play such games. Believe there are still teams who do this. Or at least look harder.
   We're already playing the well-known Mercyhurst, in literally its first D1 game ever.
    So maybe some variables force a schedule like this one year. Ok. Question the effort, yet
maybe things happen. 
     But it's been numerous years like this.
     And it does nothing for us or rebuilding the self-destroyed program, except build up false hopes early in the season. Shattered by reality in league play.
 

Only makes sense to do that if at-large hopefuls are picking up extra games against other A10 teams likely to finish in Q1 or Q2. Making Dayton play GW even once a year is a risk to already small hopes of multi-bid revenue shares.

There appear to be 40 guys who were all "1971" somehow on a site with like 6-12 quasi regular posters so here's an idea, take those 53 year old degrees from GW and donate some funds to the program 

Using 10 handles constantly whining crying moaning doesn't help GW win basketball games

Last edited by The Dude (8/30/2024 10:48 am)

H&R..71 wrote:

I appreciate all the points being made about the scheduling process but can't understand this:  There are 40 D1 basketball programs within a 4 hour bus/train ride from/to GW.  The cost of 1-2 buses for a round trip to Penn or Lafayette can certainly be eked out.  Heck, Mercyhurst is on Lake Erie and they can make the trip.

There used to be an obvious connection between coaches relationships with other coaches and programs in scheduling. JC had his, ML his, Jarvis his and on and on.  It also was a carryover from recruiting connections. 

I think the schedule will fall into place once CC establishes our product.  If we make noise in the A10, which I think we will, the OOC will improve.  Meanwhile show us a team that can run it's stuff consistently.  Who cares if it's against a high school team as long as we don't throw the damn ball away every time we get momentum.

Let's go Revs!!!!   

there is a trade off between fans seeing interesting, quality basketball vs what is good for the team in terms of the NET Rankings.

a non D-1 opponent has no bearing on NET - positively or negatively.
but winning by less than running up the score on 300+ and above ranked team will cost you NET points and reduce your chances on post season selection and invites into the better MTEs and Holiday Tournaments.
( i was at the Georgetown game that they lost to a D-2 team from Kentucky at McDonough - PreCovid)

I understand the scheduling strategy and dont like it - and i wish the teams would work on effort to change the NET calculus to remove this undesired effect